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06-14-2004, 06:28 PM
I have seen more posts, magazines articles, emails and the such this week about the Illuminanti that my head is spinning. Who are they. I looked them up on the internet and didnt find much... I was just wondering what they are all about.

Thanks !

06-14-2004, 06:41 PM
Several months ago I had a revelation that this concept is true. That there are a few that are running the world and they are primarily associated in our governments. As I heard it most of the governments personnel dont even know they exist or understand or have knowledge of what is really going on. Perhaps now I have a name to associate the revelation with. I will keep searching and asking.

Thanks Bill !

06-15-2004, 09:07 AM
Hello HGB4Me,

Can't find much info on the Illuminati? I'm sorry but you must not be trying very hard. You have the internet so do a Google search. Thousands of hits in under 2 seconds.

Even if there is a "world power structure" in existance as talk of an Illuminati suggests, I would recommend that you not spend any worry on them. If you are an American living in the U.S., I'd be more afraid of Republicans if I were you.....but then, why be AFRAID of anything??????

Is this Debi? Debi dear you are on this webboard I see because you believe in God. Those who don't believe in God have plenty to fear, but we are different. All ANXIETY MUST BE ABANDONED!! Even Peter realized this great truth when he proclaimed, paraphasing.."what shall I care if all things earthly crash?"

Within the Fatherhood of God, there is no place for the tiny and unreal things of irrational fear. People who allow themselves to be bothered by myriad fears, worries and anxiety only do so because they don't know or refuse to understand or learn the truth of our existance.

Let's look at the biggest fear one can have. The fear of death. Lookit, one of these days, for one reason or another, your body is going to stop fuctioning on this world wether by disease or accident or old age. That is the very definition of the animal origin finite existance.

But those who believe in God have been promised a continuing existance....we "go to heaven". So what difference does it make WHEN that happens? It makes no difference Debi. So, therefor it becomes prudent to ALWAYS BE READY to go, for none of us knows WHEN our time may come.

Do you see? You simply can't allow your mind, heart and soul to go around being bothered by ANY fears. It is self destructive, a complete waste of time and energies.

The truth of our existance is all about the loving embrace that Father holds us in for his purpose. We are His beloved children. There is nothing higher in the entire universe that we can ever aspire to be other than a child of God ! We literally swim, live and breath in the great ocean of God's love.

Fear, worries and anxieties are merely unfortunate side-effect distractions suffered by immature creatures. So it is our job to grow up and learn the truth, which saves us and sets us free. And to teach and live truth to our children and to share it with our neighbors.

None of this is too difficult to understand. No rocket science going on here. All of this can be readily gleaned from the Bible and is also clearly explained and greatly expanded upon in the Urantia Book.

Neither the Illuminati or the Democrats or the Republicans or any "Royals" anywhere have any power whatsoever to provide you a continuing existance once your time here on this world is over. Eternal life is exclusively the provence of God. So I can recommend that you put your trust in Him and His Sons and Associates. Irrational fear MUST be abandoned. Be a good citizen of your country yes, give to Caesar the things which are Caesars, but waste no further worry on any political structure or "power". They have no REAL influence over your soul. Ignore them.

I hope that any of this may be of some help to you!

06-15-2004, 09:54 AM
Hey Woody,

I did do a google search and found many pages but the information was weak. Also, it is not out of fear but interest to some degree. Father has shown me many things and I am sure it is just in preparation for His work...


Fear, worries and anxieties are merely unfortunate side-effect distractions
Amen ! Good Word ! Fear is used for distraction purposes.

06-15-2004, 10:38 AM
Hello Debi,

One fairly complete overview I saw off of the first page of search hits was www.illuminati-news.com (http://www.illuminati-news.com) you may want to try that. If the Illuminati even exists you can be sure that it is a secret society and you are not going to be able really learn much about it (them) from the outside....only attempted descriptions from others. My main point from above was for you to not spend any energy worrying about any negative aspect of their alleged activities which you may hear of.

06-15-2004, 11:32 AM
Thanks Woody... point well taken. I keep expecting to see something... Like all of a sudden I will see "it" whatever "it" is. It has been over a year now that I have this continuous expectation.

Blessings !

06-15-2004, 12:56 PM
The conspiracy must be much older than this. It would have to go all the way back to Nod. See next article.
Over 200 years ago, in 1797, one of the most respected scientists in the world wrote a book entitled Proofs of a Conspiracy (London: Creech, Cadell, Davies Publ., 1797). He was John T. Robison, secretary general to Scotland's prestigious Royal Society and professor of natural philosophy at the University of Edinburgh.
What he detected while on sabbatical in Europe was a new element in the Grand Orient Masonic Lodges. He was approached by Adam Weishaupt, the founder of this new elite, inviting him to join an inner circle known as Illuminism.
Adam Weishaupt was a professor of canon law at the University of Ingolstadt. He started the Order of the Illuminati on May 1, 1776, originally calling it the Order of Perfectibilists. His plan was to use the Grand Orient Lodges of Europe as a filtering mechanism through which to screen out talent and build a hierarchy of inner circles. Like the Mafia of today, only the inner circle could be trusted with the true purpose of the Order.
The true purpose of the Illuminati, according to Professor Robison, was world hegemony: a world order ruled by an elite pretending to represent the common man, an elite who had penetrated every aspect of society from the arts to politics and law while shaping public opinion with more subtlety than the average citizen was able to detect.

For more information:

A Chronological History of the New World Order

The Cutting Edge

The Illuminati and the Counsel on Foreign Relations

A Satanic Plot for a One World Government

Yes! It's real! Trilateral Commission Overview with Biographies

The Illuminati was presumed to have been dispersed by the end of the century but some believe that Illuminati members chose instead to conceal themselves and their plans within the cloak of Freemasonry, under which auspices they continue to thrive. They have maintained a stranglehold on the political, financial and social administration of the United States and have significant influence in the global business of nations.

The Illuminist plan was to unseat the present powers of hereditary aristocracy and replace them with an intellectual aristocracy, using a staged revolt of the masses. This, indeed, was exactly what the French Revolution appeared to be - key people catalyzing great numbers of people. The French Revolution was not a historical accident happening by whim, but was manipulated by geniuses who had their own agenda.

In more recent years the Illuminati has allegedly been involved in the assassination of John F. Kennedy and has been at the forefront of indoctrinating the American public into their socialist one-world agenda.
This material refers to a possible source and inspiration for the Illuminati.

1. The Origin of False Religions Began with Lucifer.
2. The Rebellion in Heaven Against God.
3. The Rebellion on Earth Against God.
4. Lucifer Was and Is Today Worshipped As the Sun-god.
5. The Doctrine of the Immortal Soul, Basic Foundation of Witchcraft.
6. Astrology, the Origin of All Pagan Sciences.

In the last book of the Bible, Jesus Christ gives His Last warning before He returns the second time. This Last Day warning is found in chapters 13, 14, 16, 17 & 18 of the Book of Revelation. Jesus warns His people about how the whole world will be deceived into worshipping Satan, symbolized as the Seven Headed Dragon attacking a woman, a symbol of the True Faith.
In Revelation 13:4, 8, 9 Jesus' prediction about the worship of Satan throughout this world may be read: "And they WORSHIPPED THE DRAGON which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him? ... And all that dwell upon the earth SHALL WORSHIP HIM, WHOSE NAMES ARE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE OF THE LAMB SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. If any man have an ear, let him hear."
The Apostle John wrote: "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time." 1.John 2:18.
The Apostle Paul warned: "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped: so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." 2.Thessalonians 2:3,4. There are various ways our Lord has made known to His followers how to detect Satan who is the invisible head of a partly religious and partly political movement. Revelation 13:18 warns it would be branded with the number 666. In Revelation 17:5 our Lord describes this satanic movement that is antichrist in a symbol of a lewd beautiful woman. And upon her forehead was a name written, "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."
The very last warning our Lord is now giving the deceived world is found in Revelation 18:4. "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, THAT YE BE NOT PARTAKERS OF HER SINS, AND THAT YE RECEIVE NOT OF HER PLAGUES."
There are three distinct messages symbolized as three angels in Revelation 14. Revelation 14:6, 7 is calling the world away from the worship of the Dragon, to worship God who created the heaven, earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. In Revelation 14:8 it tells how Babylon the Great is fallen and how she has made all nations to drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. However, in Revelation 14:9,10 we read the most solemn warning ever given to the world, of which most are completely ignorant. Satan is hardly ever mentioned in many Christian circles, much less how he is predicted in Scripture to lead most to lose their salvation.
"And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his MARK in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb." Revelation 14:9,10.
God reveals that all nations have already been deceived by "Babylon the Great, The Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth." And our Lord is calling His people out of Babylon. But, the question to most is, what is Babylon? This is the whole purpose of this book. It is to lay wide open for all to see what the sins of Babylon the Great are, and who she is, and who this mysterious scarlet colored beast is that she is riding on, as described in Revelation 17:1-8.
While we study the history and the nature of "Babylon the Great (and of the Beast that is carrying her)," we will learn that there was, is, and always shall be in this world, avowed worshippers of Lucifer. Some will be shocked to learn that Luciferians have lived and died in promoting the worship of Lucifer through Babylonian, Egyptian and Druid Witchcraft, and are determined to overthrow all religions and governments. Their goal is to unite the world into a One World Government, and exalt Lucifer as the only god of this world!
As we continue to study the nature of "Babylon the Great," we will study the philosophies of "Wicca" Wicca is the modern version of Babylonian, Egyptian, and Druid Witchcraft with millions of both male and female members. We will learn how apostles of Lucifer in the past and present are using Secret Societies, Communism, International Banking, Christian fronts, social issues to further their plans. We will learn how these modern day witches are ever determined to overthrow the worship of Jesus Christ and Christianity by using subliminal warfare (Mind Sciences), and physical force. This Luciferian plot to destroy all religions and all governments, so that a One World Luciferian Government may be established, is coming today, in what is known as "The Aquarian Age," or "The New Age Movement." In Latin it is called Novus Ordo Seclorum (New Order for the Ages). But its real, concealed name is The Illuminati. And, it will be shown that it was from the Secret Order of The Illuminati, that Communism was derived!
We will study the origin of the number 666, and who today is branded with it. We will study the Mark of the Beast with whom no true follower of Jesus will identify. We will take a journey through documentive history starting with Lucifer's rebellion in Heaven, and continue to expose through history how Lucifer was worshipped, both ignorantly and openly, through the astrological systems of Sun worship. After the camouflages have been removed from paganism that reveal it was in reality Satan who was worshipped as the Sun-god, then we shall remove all the camouflages Lucifer is hiding behind today, through false systems of Christianity, and through an international political movement for a One World Government.
These two symbols, "Babylon the Great" and the Beast that ascendeth out of the Bottomless Pit, will be carefully studied and understood later on in the book. However, before the ordinary reader can comprehend any of these things, we must go back into history to the time of Adam and Eve, and to the time of Noah and Nimrod.
The origin of lies traces to Lucifer (Genesis 3:4). And the origin of false religion also began with Lucifer. In Isaiah 14:12-15 we read:
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds: I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell to the sides of the pit."
It has been Lucifer's plan from ancient times to gradually unite this entire world into a One World Government that would reject its Creator and worship Lucifer instead.
Lucifer before his fall was the most exalted angel next to Christ. The "son of the morning" stood in the presence of God with Christ. He was the covering Cherub, the lightbearer for God. However, Lucifer began to think of himself as equal in splendor and wisdom to God. He began to think he also deserved worship from the Lord's servants, and began to plot against the Lord of Heaven. Lucifer, the covering Cherub, did set his face to overthrow the worship of God. Lucifer did not at once reveal his covetousness. If he had exposed all of his plans to the Universe, where sin and rebellion at that time were not known, he would not have gained much following. Lucifer's plot to overthrow the government of Heaven would take long and careful planning. Little by little, Lucifer began to find others whose sympathy he could gain by criticizing how the Lord managed the affairs of the Universe. Lucifer tried to make the God of Love, the Lord of the Sabbath, appear to be a selfish tyrant. Lucifer, assuming the guise of godliness, led many Heavenly Beings to come over to his side by misrepresenting God's character, as if God Himself were the Evil One.
Lucifer sowed seeds of murmuring, complaining and strife which germinated into rebellion, and caused divisions among the angels of Heaven. Lucifer tried to weaken the unity of Heaven, thinking this would weaken the power of the Almighty. However, only one third of the Heavenly host chose the side of the god of confusion. The whole Universe chose only two sides; there was no middle ground. There was war in Heaven between Christ and Lucifer. "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: He was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." Revelation 12:9.
The very plans Lucifer tried to execute in Heaven, he is now conditioning the people of the world to accept. Just as Satan, or Lucifer, concealed his real plans from the angels in Heaven in the beginning to overthrow the worship of God, so is Lucifer trying today to overthrow the True worship of God among the inhabitants of this world. Just as Satan did not suddenly expose his real plans that would have demanded the worship of him by Heavenly Beings, so has Satan camouflaged the worship of himself among earthly beings, through a world-wide network of gods and goddesses, and later through false systems of Christianity.
Sun worship was the greatest rival religion of the worship of Jehovah in the Old Testament. It was through Sun worship that the worship of Lucifer was camouflaged throughout this world. Those who obeyed the pagan precepts were actually bowing their knee before the Devil, not gods as they thought. "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?" Romans 6:16.
As the angels of Heaven chose sides before Lucifer was cast out of heaven, so will the people of this world join into two distinct groups before the end of this age. The line of distinction, which will be studied in detail in the closing chapter, will be drawn by the Mark of the Beast foretold in Revelation 13: 11-18 and 14:6-13.
The Luciferian plot to overthrow the worship of Jesus has always worked in secret, using camouflages to remain hidden. It has not come upon the world suddenly, but little by little. Likewise, we must also trace this history of the great Luciferian Conspiracy little by little. We will expose how primitive man was deceived into worshipping Lucifer, then bring the reader down through the centuries and show how Lucifer is being worshipped in these modern 1990's.
To begin this study, let's take a closer look at the name "Lucifer" itself. The name "Lucifer" in Latin means "Light-Bearer" and may also mean the planet Venus, which is the "morning star at dawn"[2]. In Greek mythology, Lucifer was personified as a male figure bearing a torch[3]. Hence, we have the origin of the Light-Bearer of the Olympic Games. The Greek transliteration of the name of this incarnation of Lucifer in the myth was Teitan. In middle English his name was Titan, which also meant "Sungod"[4]. .A distorted record of the rebellion of Lucifer and that of the rebel giant Nimrod has been preserved in Greek mythology. Titan (Teitan), the personification of Lucifer, was the ancestor of a race of giant humans here on earth who were overthrown by the Olympian gods[6]. Hence, the word titan today means "one gigantic in size or power." And, the word titanism today in our language means "spirit of rebellion; or a defiance of and revolt against the established order or authority"[6].
As Lucifer was the chief leader that led the angelic host to rebel against God, so did Nimrod cause the early descendants of Noah to rebel against God. Flavius Josephus, the ancient Jewish historian, wrote about Nimrod and how he seduced the people of his day to rebel against God, and was first to teach the arts of masonry, while building the "Tower of Babel." From the book "The Complete Works of Flavius Josephus", we read the following:
" ... Now it was Nimrod who excited them to such an affront and contempt of God. He was the grandson of Ham, the son of Noah, a bold man, and of great strength of hand. He persuaded them not to ascribe it to God, as if it was through his means they were happy, but to believe that it was their own courage which produced that happiness. He also gradually changed the government into tyranny, seeing no other way of turning men from fear of God, but to bring them into a constant dependence on his own power. He also said he would be revenged on God, if he would have a mind to drown the world again, for that he would build a tower too high for the waters to be able to reach! And that he would avenge himself on God for destroying their forefathers!
"Now the multitude were very ready to follow the determination of Nimrod, and to esteem it a piece of cowardice to submit to God; and they built a tower, neither sparing any pains, nor being in any degree negligent about the work. And by reason of the multitude of hands employed in it, it grew very high, sooner than any one could expect; but the thickness of it was so great, and it was so strongly built, that thereby its great height seemed, upon the view, to be less than it really was." (The Complete Works of Flavius Josephus, Whiston, Kregel Publications, 1960, 1978, p.30.)
Nimrod tried to unite the whole known world of his day into a One World Government that would be anti-God or Antichrist. But God wanted the sons of Noah to eventually replenish the earth by traveling abroad the earth and settling in colonies. This would have kept in check the wickedness that has always derived out of the cities. In the beginning, it was not intended that man be crowded together in large cities. This tower of Babel, the building of which Nimrod supervised, was to have two great significances. The city of Babel would become the metropolis of the world and unite its inhabitants under the dictatorial rule of Nimrod. And its tower was to be a monument to man to stand as a symbol of the wisdom of its builders. By building the city of Babel, Nimrod hoped to prevent the people from scattering abroad into colonies as the Lord intended. While in the midst of this building, when the tower reached an height that it could today be called "skyscraper," our Lord came against it. In Genesis 11:3-9 we read: "And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar. And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have one language; and this they began to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. Therefore is the name of it Babel (confusion); because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth."
Nimrod, who also built Nineveh, was worshipped by its early inhabitants under his deified name "Ninus." He was first to incite people to war with their neighbors after the confusion of tongues had scattered the early descendants of Noah over the earth. Trogus Pompeius, who wrote of Ninus, states that the first King of Nineveh caused the people to war against themselves. Alexander Hislop compiled this statement written by Trogus Pompeius, the ancient historian, in his book The Two Babylons, p. 23:
" 'Ninus, king of Assyrians,' says Trogus Pompeius epitomized by Justin, 'first of all changed the contented moderation of the ancient manners, incited by a new passion, the desire of conquest. He was the first who carried on war against his neighbours and he conquered all nations from Assyria to Lybia, as they were yet unacquainted with the arts of war.'"
Hislop goes on to quote another ancient historian named Diodorus Siculus and shows how Trogus Pompeius and Siculus both agree with each other.
" 'Ninus, the most ancient of the Assyrian kings mentioned in history, performed great actions. Being naturally of a warlike disposition, and ambitious of glory that results from valeur, he armed a considerable number of young men that were brave and vigorous like himself, trained them up a long time in laborious exercises and hardships, and by that means accustomed them to bear the fatigues of war, and to face dangers with intrepidity.' " Loizeaux Brothers, Neptune, NJ, 1916.
Hence, Nimrod (Ninus) was celebrated at Nineveh, which he built, as a War-god, and his epics as a hunter, a warrior, and his death were later imitated in the Assyrian, Babylonian, Egyptian, Greek, Roman and American Indian Mysteries. His Egyptian name was Osiris[7]. To the Romans, he was also worshipped as Mars (which means "The Rebel"), from which our name March was derived. He was Zernebogus to the Anglo-Saxon, which means: "The Seed of the Prophet Cush"[8]. But, Nimrod's ancient Babel name was Merodach, which means "To Be Bold, or Rebel"[9]. So here we find the real meaning of these two gods found in Scripture: "Bel (The Confounder) is confounded, Merodach (The Rebel) is broken in pieces Jeremiah 50:2)." We will study more of the origin of the name "Bel" later.
In the Babylonian myth of Tammuz, or Thammuz (the equivalent to the Egyptian god Osiris, who actually was Nimrod, the ringleader in the great apostasy against our Lord, was ordered to be killed by a certain king. The reason given for his death was that Tammuz, the incarnation of the Sun-god, tried to promote the worship of Astrology to this certain king. However, this king ordered him to be put to death. Maimonides, another ancient historian, had read deeply into the learning of the Chaldeans. He describes this myth, quoted by Hislop in The Two Babylons, p. 62:
"When the false prophet named Thammuz preached to a certain king that he should worship the seven stars and the twelve signs of the Zodiac, that king ordered him to be put to a terrible death. On the night of his death all the images assembled from the ends of the earth into the temple of Babylon, to the great golden image of the Sun, which was suspended between heaven and earth. That image prostrated itself in the midst of the temple, and so did all the images around it, while it related to them all that had happened to Thammuz. The images wept and lamented all the night long, and then in the morning they flew away, each to his own temple again, to the ends of the earth. And hence arose the custom every year on the first day of the month of Thammuz to mourn and to weep for Thammuz."
Now, in the worship of the Sun-god among the Mexicans, they believed that for the Sun-god to bestow life on the world, he needed also to receive life from it [10]. To show the reader the murderous character of Satan displayed in people, and what human beings can be led to do by his false religious spirit, we will explore some of the reasons behind the rites of human sacrifices.
To the ancient Mexicans, the heart was the seat and symbol of life, and bleeding hearts of men and animals were presented to the Sun-god to maintain him in vigor and enable him to run his course across the sky [11].
Now, when the Israelites turned their backs from worshipping the Lord, they adopted the worship of the pagan gods from their neighbors. And they too were led by pagan high priests to sacrifice human beings. "They joined themselves also unto Baalpeor and ate the sacrifices of the dead. Thus they provoked the Lord to anger with their inventions: and the plague brake in upon them. And they served their idols which were a snare unto them. Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto DEVILS and shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and their daughters, whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood." Psalms 106:28, 29, 36-38.
The ignorant Israelites were not sacrificing their children to gods, as they thought, but unto devils. Paul, over 1000 years later, said the sacrifices of the Gentiles which the Israelites adopted were actually "Sacrifices to Devils." "But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils." 1.Corinthians 10:20.
As history has documented, that greatest object in pagan worship was the sun, who was symbolized all over the world as a heavenly bull [12]. The pagans displayed the cosmic god in their arts as a bull standing on its hind legs with a tail, hoofs and horns, with a man's head and arms, with a threeprong pitchfork in his hand. So the ancient cosmic symbol of the Sun-god, with hoofs, a tail, horns and a pitchfork, is where we today get our symbol for Satan as having hoofs, a tail, and horns, with a pitchfork in his hand.
In pagan philosophy, lightning was the manifestation of their god's wrath and an agent of his punishment. The thunder was the voice of his warnings [13]. In ancient Greece, thunder and lightning were believed by the worshippers of Zeus to be manifestations of his presence. Any spot struck by lightning became sacred. The very name "Zeus" (skt. dyaus, "The Bright Sky") identifies him as the god of the sky and its phenomena [14]. In Rome he was worshipped as Jupiter, in Scandinavia, Thor, and in Canaan, Baal, the Storm god.
Lightning from the sky separates into branches; hence, the lightning bolt found in the hand of the supreme god of the sky was stylized into a pitchfork. This was a symbol for his power, as he who controls the lightning bolt.
Besides Satan's personation of Christ just before Jesus' Second Coming, what other power of God is the second beast of Revelation 13:11-17 going to counterfeit through lying wonders? "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men." And this is still future.
The prince of the power of the air is also the prince of darkness. Just as the pagan was deceived by Satan in ancient times, so is the Christian in modern times. And, if man can learn how to bring electricity down from the sky and harness its energy, how much more could Satan, a supernatural being, who is even called in the Bible "The Prince of the Power of the Air" (Ephesians 2:2), able to cause destructive storms! And not only this, but also give his followers secret knowledge how to do the same to their enemies.
Because the Sun-god was believed to have this power and would also give it to his followers, if they were obedient, or would zap his enemies with his bolt, the pagans worshipped their gods through fear. In Bible Truth, it is the goodness of God that turns an evil person to worship Him (Romans 2:4). But in pagan belief, it was the anger of the Storm god, his hatred for man, his unmerciful attributes, that made the pagans bow before him. Not through love, but through fear. Their whole worship revolved around winning the evil one's favor by pacifying him through sacrifice and appeasement.
The main features behind the pure demon worship of ancient Babylon can be seen today by the open worship of the Yezidis of Kurdistan, Armenia, and the Caucasus. In their pagan worship they believe it is "Melek Taus," who is the Devil, that was the co-creator of the world [15]. Their religion today is the worship of both Good and Evil, or Christ and Satan. They have adopted some heretical elements of Christianity, and some precepts of Islam. They regard Jesus as an angel in human form and recognize Muhammad as a Prophet with Abraham. They practice circumcision and baptism. Instead of Christ as the creative agent of the Godhead (Ephesians 3:10), they regard the Devil as the creative agent of the Supreme God, and seek even today to (appease) him as the author of evil. They also avoid mentioning the name of the Devil in fear of offending him [16]. We will study another religious movement that has the dualism of good and evil to be worshipped from today's Rock Era a little later. This study should be particularly interesting for people who called themselves Christians during the epidemic of the Beatle hysteria.
The Yezedis, like most pagans, believe their destinies are not determined by a good, loving, kind and gentle God, but by the Evil One, who has no mercy, who delights in destroying mankind. They believe that the good God will forgive no matter how they regard him. But, it is the Evil One whose favor they must secure. He, as the destructive deity, must be pacified by offering him sacrifice, penance, and worship.
Is this not similar to how multitudes who call themselves Christians are led to worship the Lord of the Scriptures? Is it not pictured by erring priests and pastors that God is a vengeful God, who is ever waiting to cast the unrepentant into a burning place of torment, or sent the repentant to purgatory, so they may be tortured by fire until they suffer enough to be purified for Heaven? Is it not screamed, dramatized and shouted to congregations about how gruesome are the tortures of them who are now, so they say, in Hell, the burning place of torment?
There is hardly a Christian denomination that doesn't teach the doctrine of Life After Death or Immortality of the Soul. But the Bible clearly states that no one lives on after death. "For the living know that they shall die: But THE DEAD KNOW NOT ANYTHING, neither have they any more a reward: for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished: neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun." Ecclesiastes 9:5,6.
If the wicked are tormented in Hell Fire as taught by most Christian priests and pastors, when the wicked die, would they not have some knowledge of the torment they are supposed to be experiencing? "Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might: For there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grove, whither thou goest." Ecclesiastes 9:10.
If the righteous go to Heaven after death as taught in most Christian churches, would they not be praising the Lord? The Bible says: "The Dead Praise Not The Lord, Neither Any That Go Down In Silence." Psalms 115:17.
If man goes to Heaven at death like most Christian churches tell their members, wouldn't these righteous people have some thoughts or ideas where they are? The Bible says: "His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that VERY DAY HIS THOUGHTS PERISH." Psalm 146:4.
Some go to the gravesites to talk to their dead friends or relatives, but the Bible says: "His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low but he perceiveth it not of them." Job 14:21. "For in death there is NO REMEMBRANCE OF THEE, IN THE GRAVE WHO SHALL GIVE THEE THANKS?" Psalms 6:5.
Jesus plainly stated that the dead are still in the graves at His Second Coming, not in Heaven: "Verily, Verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, WHEN THE DEAD SHALL HEAR THE VOICE OF THE SON OF GOD: AND THEY THAT HEAR SHALL LIVE." ... "MARVEL NOT AT THIS: FOR THE HOUR IS COMING, IN WHICH ALL THAT ARE IN THE GRAVES SHALL HEAR HIS VOICE, AND SHALL COME FORTH; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation." John 5:25,28,29.
Both the wicked and the righteous are still in their graves. However, there is a Hell Fire where the wicked will surely be destroyed. But this is still future. This hell fire comes from Heaven, not from some secret place where the dead are now receiving their punishment. The Devil is not in charge of some secret place called Hell that is under the earth where all the wicked have been thrown. Nor does the Devil run around with his pitchfork, sticking and burning the wicked both day and night. The fire will be from Heaven and will destroy the wicked and also the Devil himself. Revelation 20.
Peter foretold Christ's Second Coming would be in fire: "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness: but is longsuffering to us-word, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall MELT WITH FERVENT HEAT, THE EARTH ALSO AND THE WORKS THAT ARE THEREIN SHALL BE BURNED UP." 2.Peter 3:9, 10.
David foretold Christ's Second Coming 1,000 years before Jesus was born. In Psalm 50:3-5, we read: "Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before Him, and it shall be tempestuous round about Him. He shall call to the heavens from above, and to the earth, that He may Judge His people. Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice."
Paul also foretold that Jesus would be a consuming fire to those who have rejected the Gospel. 2.Thessalonians 1:7-9, "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power." In Isaiah 29:6 we read: "Thou shalt be visited of the Lord of hosts with THUNDER, AND WITH EARTHQUAKE, AND GREAT NOISE, WITH STORM AND TEMPEST AND THE FLAME OF DEVOURING FIRE."
The doctrine of the wicked being thrown into ever burning fire cannot be found in either the Old or New Testaments, but it is found on the pages of Sun worship. The Hell Fire Jesus plainly described in Scripture has two time periods. There are two different times fire and brimstone shall rain from Heaven. The first shall be at Christ's Second Coming. But the consuming fire that finally destroys the Devil, his angels, and the wicked will not be until after the 1,000 years described in Revelation 20:1-6, 9, 10. This is when the wicked will be raised from the dead, and Satan will make a last effort to destroy the New Jerusalem: "And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city; and fire CAME DOWN FROM GOD OUT OF HEAVEN, AND DEVOURED THEM. AND THE DEVIL THAT DECEIVED THEM WAS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, WHERE THE BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE, AND SHALL BE TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT FOR EVER AND EVER." Revelation 20:9, 10.
This whole earth is going to be covered with fire. Fire is a purifying agent. And it will be fire that our Lord will use to purify the earth of its pollutions caused by Satan and man for 6,000 years.
In the book of Malachi we read the following: "For behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven: and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch." Malachi 4:1.
The Lord destroyed everything in Noah's day by water; that was just a shadow of the earth when it shall be covered by fire. Peter saw this was to come and said in 2.Peter 3:5,6, "For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."
As stated before, there are two periods of this Hell Fire predicted by both the Old Testament Prophets and by the New Testament Apostles. And, there are also to be two resurrections. In Revelation 20:1-9, it plainly states the resurrection of the wicked and their destruction will not happen until the 1,000-year millenium is over. "And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." We will study more of this very important doctrine later.
Now, among the first inhabitants of the earth, Lucifer's first lie was "YE SHALL NOT SURELY DIE (Genesis 3:4)." And, this same LIE of the Devil has been used from Adam and Eve's day to our present time today. Here lies the origin of the foundation of the falsehood of immortal soul, reincarnation, all forms of Spiritualism, Astrology, Black Magic, Necromancy, Purgatory and Hell, the burning place of torment. The whole system of the Mystery of Iniquity is based on this lie of the Devil, "Life after Death." But the Bible is very clear: "THOU SHALT SURELY DIE." Genesis 2:16, 17.
Man does not continue to live after death as most have been deceived into believing. "For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not anything." Ecclesiastes 9:5.
As stated before, the myths about "Life After Death" can be traced in the legends of Nimrod who became the great god of the Assyrians and Babylonians [17]. At Nineveh, Austen H. Layard, from the British Museum, uncovered the ancient city and discovered over 25,000 tablets describing the ancient history of the Assyrian Empire [18]. Layard found inscriptions at Nineveh that said it was Ninus who built the city [10]. The word "Nineveh" itself means "The Habitation of Ninus"[20]. But it has been discovered that the name Ninus was just a deified name the early Assyrians called Nimrod, because the Bible itself says it was Nimrod who built Nineveh (Genesis 10:11). Nimrod (Ninus) was said to have been killed, according to the inscriptions, but his "spirit" became immortal and flew up to the Sun and he became "Beelsamon," "Lord of Heaven"[21].
In all forms of witchcraft, as in all modern forms today, the doctrine of "Immortality of the Soul" was the center of their whole pagan belief and worship. Pagans believed that when they died they took possession of one of the stars in Heaven. The ignorant pagans, like multitudes of Christians today, believe that the spirits of the dead are "ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation." Hebrews 1:14.
If the reader has ever read into the history of any nation, the history of the people shows that their whole culture was surrounded by the belief in "Life After Death," "Reincarnation," and communicating with the dead. Multitudes of pagan traditions, worldwide, have their origin in the Legends of Nimrod.
The Babylonians taught that the fate of everything was dependent on the sky. The Babylonians, as most ancient people, believed that each mortal, like the gods, had his own star in the Sky [22]. Here we can begin to see why primitive men believed their chief gods inhabited the planets and named the planets as the homes of their gods. Saturn (the Roman god of crops) is believed to be the star-god Stephen said the ancient Israelites worshipped in their apostasy under the name of Remphan [23]. "Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the Star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon." Acts 7:43, see also Amos 5:26.
This will also help us to understand the cosmic religion of Astrology, and how Astrology ties in with Sun worship. Astrology was actually the origin of the pagan sciences and pagan symbols. John, in the book of Revelation, was given this sacred number 666 of Astrology to identify who this beast is (see Revelation 13:1-11, and 18) that Jesus warns not to be identified with (Revelation 14:9,10).
In the ancient Babylonian astrological system, it is the Sun-god who is the ruler and main god of the zodiac. And all the gods of heaven (the stars) were considered offspring of the sun. According to pagan philosophy, all the star gods you have heard about in school were actually manifestations of the heat, fire and light which flowed from the sun. It was believed that it was the Sun-god who was the source of all things, and all the other gods were but emanations of the sun, "flesh of his flesh." Therefore, all the manifestations of the gods of nature were just manifestations of the one god, the Sun, whose worship by primitive man was in reality to Satan. Even Lucifer's name means "Day Star," the "Illuminated One," or "Shining One"[24].
The Egyptians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Hindus and American Indians, like the Babylonians, all believed that their gods were just representations of the one god. The ancient people, shortly after the flood, had a knowledge of the True God of Noah, Shem, and Abraham. But the worship of the True God of Noah, Shem, and Abraham soon became perverted into idolatry by the larger population when Nimrod tried to unite the whole world into a One World Government. And this anti-God movement shall be attempted by some modern Nimrods in our time!
Both history and the Bible reveal that the greatest mystery to mankind has always been the Universe. And Satan, the Prince of the Power of the Air, used man's curiosity about the heavenly host to cause man to worship them instead of their Creator. "And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the Lord and served Baalim (the Sun-god)." Judges 2:11.
The word Baalim is a term to describe the whole system of Sun worship. Augustine said in his book, The City of God, that all the learned pagan doctors declared that all the chief gods of the Greek-Roman world were 'one and the same love,' and that all the stars were part of love and had rational souls [25]. All the chief gods of Greece and Rome were the same gods worshipped in Babylonia, Assyria, Egypt, Persia, and North and South America [26]. Only the names were different, like their languages and cultures were. It was from Babylon (Babel) that Sun worship started. And, it is also where all ancient and modern nations today receive their system of Astrology [27].
In pagan philosophy, the stars controlled the affairs of the human race. Hence, the science of Astrology claims to interpret the will of the star gods. The chief star gods of the pagans were the gods of Astrology, which were believed to be just emanations of the one god, the Sun-God [28], the ruler of the Zodiac. Astrology is the foundation of all the pagan sciences of the occult, whose author is Lucifer, and his spirit guides are his angels. Spiritualism, which is just another name for Witchcraft, is today, among the young, the biggest rival of Jesus Christ. It will be through Spiritualism that men and women will come with all manner of lying wonders that will gather the whole world under Satan's banner. "Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there, believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." Matthew 24:23,24.
Spiritualism (Witchcraft) will deceive the whole world into accepting a strong delusion that will bring Satan to finally use his crowning deception that will cause most to lose their salvation. Lucifer, this Old Serpent, called the Devil, will personate Jesus Christ just before the real Christ comes the Second Time. This will be Satan's last effort to destroy mankind. However, students of the Bible, who have made Scripture their only standard to judge between truth and error, will not be fooled into worshipping Satan as Christ. For the satanic movement to unite the world under one banner and Christ walking upon this earth again is a complete contradiction of Scripture. But to actually understand any of this, the reader must not be ignorant of Satan's devices; so we need to examine what the Bible says Spiritualism or, what Witchcraft is. This we will study in Part II of this Chapter.

[COLOR=Red]People have spent their lifetime trying to pin this down. However as Woody said, it is really not important to believers.


06-15-2004, 10:41 PM
The conspiracy must be much older than this. It would have to go all the way back to Nod. See next article.

Yes, even b4 Adam. Very ancient.

06-16-2004, 05:32 AM
:wave: Here are a number of publications concerning the involvement of the "George W. Bush clan" with the skull & bones fraternety (aka "the brotherhood of death") a WASP secret society at Yale Univ. associated with the illumenati:

a report from cbs news (june 10, 2004):

a report from news center (January 22, 2004):

a report from New York Observer:

I'm presently reading a book dealing with this issue:
"Crimes of a President: New Revelations on the Conspiracy and Cover Up in the Bush and Reagan Administration" by Joel Bainerman.


06-16-2004, 08:07 AM
Hi Debi again,

Well I thought I left ya another reply here yesterday but I don't see it right now. It was short so I'll repeat it.

Here's one link that gives an overview of their alleged organization and activities. www.illuminati-news.com (http://www.illuminati-news.com)

Also, if "they" even exist, they will be a secret society and by definition you won't be able to learn very much about them from the outside. All you can learn is descriptions by persons who think they know something about what so and so is doing.

06-16-2004, 09:43 AM
Hi Debi again,

Well I thought I left ya another reply here yesterday but I don't see it right now. It was short so I'll repeat it.

Here's one link that gives an overview of their alleged organization and activities. www.illuminati-news.com (http://www.illuminati-news.com/)

Also, if "they" even exist, they will be a secret society and by definition you won't be able to learn very much about them from the outside. All you can learn is descriptions by persons who think they know something about what so and so is doing.
Thank you all for your comments ! And I am expecting Daddy to talk to me for more information on this. If He wants me to know more He will tell me correctly.


06-16-2004, 05:48 PM
Yes the Illuminati are part of the trouble we face and they most certainly go back to the days of Dalamatia. Their motives are entirely self-serving and fueled by profit from war and death. Trickery and deception are their most important tools. But they are not part of the Hope of eternal life. I believe that they do represent a test. In dealing with this potential evil we have the opportunity to be of great service to our brothers and sisters who still sit in spiritual darkness. Or we could ignore this growing problem and be of service to nobody.

How will you answer when Jesus asks "Did you feed my sheep?"

06-16-2004, 09:24 PM
Who has defined them as "evil"? Just wondering.

06-17-2004, 05:33 AM
:say what? concerning what Willi wrote:
>>Adam Weishaupt was a professor of canon law at the University of Ingolstadt. He started the Order of the Illuminati on May 1, 1776, originally calling it the Order of Perfectibilists. His plan was to use the Grand Orient Lodges of Europe as a filtering mechanism through which to screen out talent and build a hierarchy of inner circles. Like the Mafia of today, only the inner circle could be trusted with the true purpose of the Order.
The true purpose of the Illuminati, according to Professor Robison, was world hegemony: a world order ruled by an elite pretending to represent the common man, an elite who had penetrated every aspect of society from the arts to politics and law while shaping public opinion with more subtlety than the average citizen was able to detect. <<

This is exactly what many investigative journalists claim concerning the involvement of the Bush clan, CIA and the scull & bones secret elite society at Yale University. All the ethnic wars in the 20th-21th centuries are manipulated by the "bonesmen" (i.e.scull & bones members) in power: the Vietnam war in order to control the drug trade world wide; the middle east wars to control the oil trade world wide, the bosnia war to weaken Europe, etc. etc.

:oh yeah: Here are some Quotes:
Before the Vietnam "War", the Golden Triangle was run by French Intelligence and Corsican mobsters. After the French bailed out and America moved in, the triangle was run by U.S. intelligence, with aid from Sicilian mobsters. This narcotics network is well documented in "The Politics of Heroin in S. E. Asia" by Alfred McCoy, "The Great Heroin Coup" by Henrik Kruger and "Double-Cross" by Sam and Chuck Giancana. ... The wholesale importation of cocaine into the U.S. during "Iran/Contra" is also well documented. George Bush, is known "to be in the loop" with many of the players keeping in contact directly with his office. ... Narcotics such as cocaine and heroin cannot be manufactured without the precursor chemicals. One of the largest makers of these precursor chemicals is the Eli Lilly Company of Indianapolis, Indiana. The Quayle family is a large stockholder, and George Bush has been on the Board of Directors. Eli Lilly is also the company that first synthesized LSD for the CIA. -- DRUG THE MASSES AND THUS CONTROL THEM!! (http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones06.htm)

When a person is initiated into Skull & Bones, they are given a new name, similar to the practice of the Illuminati. And many recorded Illuminati members can be shown to have contact and/or strong influences with many of the professors that taught "Bonesmen" in Berlin. (http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones10.htm)

In 1785, a bolt of lightning struck a courier en route to Paris from Frankfort-on-the-Main. A tract written by Adam Weishaupt, founder of the Illuminati, "Original Shift in Days of Illuminations," was recovered from the dead messenger, containing the secret society's long-range plan for "The New World Order through world revolution". The Bavarian Government outlawed the society and in 1787 published the details of The Illuminati conspiracy in "The Original Writings of the Order and Sect of the Illuminati." In Adam Weishaupt's own words: "By this plan, we shall direct all mankind in this manner. And, by the simplest means, we shall set all in motion and in flames. The occupations must be so allotted and contrived that we may, in secret, influence all political transactions." There is disagreement among scholars as to whether or not the Illuminati survived its banishment. Nevertheless, the group had been quite successful in attracting members and had allied itself with the extensive Masonic networks. The Illuminati was publicly founded May 1, 1776 at the University of Ingolstadt by Weishaupt, Professor of Canon Law. It was a very "learned" society; Weishaupt drew the earliest members of his new order from among his students. On December 5, 1776, students at William and Mary College founded a secret society, Phi Beta Kappa. A second chapter was formed, at Yale, in 1780. The anti-Masonic movement in the United States during the 1820s held groups such as Phi Beta Kappa in a bad light. Because of pressure, the society went public. This is noted by some researchers as the direct cause of the appearance of Yale's Order of Skull and Bones. (http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones09.htm)

Y.B.:Poor Than

06-17-2004, 11:46 AM
We wouldn't want to leave out the Learned elders of Zion. Has anyone read that book? "Protocols"

06-17-2004, 12:49 PM
No but is sound very interesting to me. I will look it up. Something about it really caught my hearing.


06-17-2004, 12:59 PM
:being sil Here is a website on this subject:

Y.B. Yez'zer

06-17-2004, 02:08 PM
YB, I first come accross the Protocols in book form. I was in Kansas working a job and went to an estate sale of an Russian Jew that had lived in Wichita. The book I bought was published in Russa and was quite old, but was in english. This was in the 1980s, can't rember just what year.:Wink/Smil

BTW, Thanks for the link.

:being sil Here is a website on this subject:

Y.B. Yez'zer

06-18-2004, 04:05 PM
Well it's actually ILLUMINATI you can do a search the internet.
And it's not a legend they really do exist. To put it short, This group of welloff men are trying there best to to continue the lucifer rebellion. And with the money and power that they have, well, let just say that if the faith sons of urantia where ever to go against these Men it would be an up hill battle. If this group of men where to take control of urantia, what am I saying they have taken control of every aspect of our lives even daught we might not know about. War, famine, pauvrety are all reaction of their doing, it's no joke

Check it out it's on the internet

Stephane Lebel

06-18-2004, 07:44 PM
Well, perhaps this is not about the sons of men but the sons of God. Deception is for the Day of Deception. But what can be said of an uphill battle but the mountains shall me made low. Nature for nature. Just for Just. There are things which they have hidden. So just for just. It is a rather interesting principle of God that He uses our laws against itself. And it is rather automatic. Like it is embedded in law itself.


06-22-2004, 04:51 PM
Yep! These men are playing a global game of monopoly and they won't be satisfied until they control the whole board. Their attempts at making the so-called New World Order will fail. Even though American money says "In God We Trust"; no where does it define that god as being the Universal Father. No, the only God these men believe in is the god of money. Pretty much all forms of media especially television has been made to serve their goal. We must be wise as serpents and harmless as lambs. Even still the Light of Truth will one day soon Shine Forth and cast away the darkness. We must be ready. They don't realized that God owns the monopoly board they're attempting to control.

06-22-2004, 05:37 PM
They don't realized that God owns the monopoly board they're attempting to control.

More of them realize it by now than you might think.


06-22-2004, 06:55 PM
They don't realized that God owns the monopoly board they're attempting to control.

Amen ! He owns it all. And when we give up the ownership mentality then we are not deemed thieves.

07-02-2004, 11:11 AM
This deception that has been carried on down through the ages since Dalamatia will eventually become known to the masses and how will they react, I wonder, to the knowledge that an invisible leash has been placed on their neck for centuries? Or for that matter those of us who have become aware of the leash?

Will we react with anger, hate, blame, condemnation, judgement, or violence when the Truth becomes plain for all to see?

Or will we react with forgiveness and mercy as the Master would have us do?

That is the REAL test!

07-02-2004, 02:10 PM
Forgiveness comes from the understanding that nothing anyone else says or does will mock His plan or declaration. In this we give God all things and end up understanding that all things are for our safety and benifit and Fathers initial purpose regardless of our error in thinking.


07-12-2004, 05:17 PM
I guess forgiveness has never been one of my strong points...

07-12-2004, 06:24 PM
Well, maybe your understanding of it needed a little adjustment. Many times we say we dont believe in something or have a problem with something when what is really taking place is that we dont believe it in the light it is presented in. When we hear it correctly we generaly say...oh... ok... ya.

HeGeos :)

07-23-2004, 04:00 PM
I guess forgiveness has never been one of my strong points...
I've been known to also pick up a belt when a child deserves it.

A lotta' big kids gonna' be cryin'.big cry

07-31-2004, 03:57 PM
It's easy to be forgiving when life is going well and we have all the material comforts of life. Good health, full stomachs, good jobs. Many of us, anyway, have these things.

But our modern civilization is balanced on a thin knife's edge. The slightest nudge could upset our lives.

Yes, we have freedom in all the superficial things which are guaranteed by a piece of paper from our countries' founding fathers of 250 years ago. Look there it is "The Declaration of Independence." We really have little freedom in the important things.

What we fail to understand is the inalienable rights one piece of paper so graciously gives to us and our posterity another piece of paper can take away. Without our approval or consent!

And when the military so valiantly goes overseas to protect our freedom against a percieved threat; it can just as easily be turned against those it once protected if threat is percieved. A terrorist could be anywhere after all, even in your basement!

I do not wish to promote fear as fear is a tool of the enemy. I gotta call 'em as I see 'em and there are evil people in control of our world. They don't play by the rules of Truth, Beauty, and Goodness. They serve only the selfish pursuit of money, power, and greed. When push comes to shove you can bet their bellies (or their kids' bellies) won't go empty.

Yes, the Will of God shall prevail and our world will one day be a shining example of Light and Life in Nebadon.

But not today or tomorrow! Our race stands on the edge of maturity and we must go through the pain of adolescence in order to learn compassion. As long as any Urantians suffer hunger, slavery, oppression, or war we cannot have Light and Life. Those who embrace the same philosophies of the Master's enemies' still rule today.

It may come to pass that very soon now whosoever will stand up for Truth, Beauty, and Goodness could be called a Terrorist and be deemed the enemy! As Jesus forgave those who reviled Him, we must also face the same test. We aren't better than those who don't know God. This is the price of Light and Life. It won't happen otherwise, individually or globally. It has always been so.

Decisions have been made by those in charge of our world which cannot be called back. We who know a Greater Truth must be ready. (IMHO)

08-19-2004, 11:14 AM
There has always been something about the events, coverage, and investigation of the Terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 that bothered me. Yes it was a heinous crime, carefully orchestrated and executed by those who don't have a personal relationship with God. But blaming terrorists was an easily acceptable ploy. Three years later there's still no real "official" evidence of who was really responsible for the crimes. And there are many facts, when carefully examined as evidence, that don't add up to the "official" story we've been told by the Govt and media. My inner guidance has always tried to tell me all is not as it seems concerning these events. Lately, this insistence has gotten stronger and from various external sources certain pieces of the puzzle of 911 have fallen into place. As always we must discern with the Spirit of Truth and our Father Fragment.

I believe that a small powerful group, probably the Illuminati, has illegaly attempted to take over our government from within, by using the so called war on terrorism as a means to consolidate their dark power. Their goal was to control the entire world through declaration of global martial law by using the threat of terrorism as justification of their illegal actions. It is this group, not the terrorists, who are responsible for the crimes of september 11th. I believe they were even going to go so far as to throw out the U.S. Constitution, securing more power for themselves and resulting in far less freedom for us.

All in the name of the "War on Terror."

I'm not pointing fingers, blaming, or judging those wrong doers responsible for these crimes against humanity. I would, however, like to ask all my brothers and sisters who read this post, to please participate in a solemn prayer of forgiveness to our Paradise Father, this Saturday August 21 at local noon. [This of course is the true anniversary of the birth of Jesus.] The Spirit of Forgiveness will go a long way in helping us to heal ourselves and our troubled world. And if the spirit so moves you, please tell others!

There is much evidence to support these assertions I've dared to post and I don't blame anyone who reacts with disbelief. But I also believe that very soon now the full truth of these events will be disclosed to all. This is the reality we are faced with in our day and time on Urantia.

Here is one link that you might wish to investigate if time allows:

www.911inplanesite.com (http://www.911inplanesite.com/)

08-20-2004, 08:29 PM

Decisions have been made by those in charge of our world which cannot be called back

I would appreciate any effort on your part to expound on this comment. Thank you.


08-21-2004, 11:49 AM
frogigr, that's what I've been doing in this thread! But I'm not going to talk about any conspiracy theories, because real proof is going to be disclosed very soon. Neither am I going to get more specific, because I'm hoping and praying that you'll conduct your own search for TRUTH. So if I sound vague that's why. I can't do it for you, but I can give you clues. You must discover your own truth in these matters. There are a growing number in our world who are doing exactly that.

These decisions, made by the powers-that-be, were designed to control us by making us feel afraid, powerless, ignorant, and alone. This has worked for many centuries now, but the time has come for it to stop!

But we, who have a personal relationship with God, have no reason to feel these things because we can know, speak, and LIVE a Greater Truth! We must help our sleeping siblings to raise their consciousness because so many are going to react from their animalistic side and our beautiful Urantia could be torn assunder! I'm sorry. I don't mean to sound like a harbinger of doom. But I strongly believe we have little time to prepare.

There is a divine reason why this was allowed to happen. It has to do with the Spirit of Forgiveness and the completion of the Supreme. The darkness may appear to be separate from the light, but it isn't and the wisdom we'll gain from this experience is highly valued when we become finaliters!

08-24-2004, 09:54 AM
Some interesting links that came my way...



I wanted to make it clear that the things that I post of this nature are not out of fear but just information sharing and interest. I take it will a grain of salt until Father tells me what I need to know.


08-24-2004, 11:05 AM
HeGoes, I read the Cutting Edge artical you posted. Interesting. Thats quite a senerio they lay out concerning the Rapture, and those that hold those beliefs. However, thats a pretty large project, even for Caligastia, to only target such a small percentage of our population. It would seem a silly idea to me, for anyone to introduce the false Christ to the world using the Rapture beliefs as the fire works, so to speak.


08-24-2004, 01:05 PM
Hey Michael !

I had the same thought you did. It seems to me that the "rapture" would only convice a small group. And I dont see "christians" all that much of a threat anyway. Many of them seem to make themselves a target when I dont see the majority any different that those in other religions pertaining to politics and taxes... I dont think their general beleifs are much in the way of anything that an "enemy" may consider threatening more or less that any other religious group. Those who will make a difference are those who are non-aggressive anyway and Father will drive it without failure.


08-24-2004, 02:17 PM
HeGoes, That was one of the things I liked about the Pastor from Arkansas, Arnold Murry. He points out that when Jesus returns, that will start the millennium of his rule. And in his opinion, as I understand it, when Jesus does return, we all get our sriritual bodies. Now, I don't know about spiritual bodies, but that WILL be the start of the millennium of his reign. If it happens tomorrow. I know I'm putting in for a newer body.:chuckle: I really don't worry about all the trouble we might have getting TO Jesus and the millennium as I do about what the millennium is going to be like itself. As far as all the battles or Armagaden itself in getting us to the millennium, that mostly depends on how we act. Keep in mind, if things get to out of hand, Father has a few options too. For instance, a rock about the size of a house hitting Earth from outerspace, would get us hugging each other real quick, not to mention give us a whole new outlook about war with each other. The folks at the Jet Propulsion Lab in Ca. understands a rock that size can very easily get by us. And of course around 9 of them spred out over the world, could pretty much give us something else to do for a while. I just wouldn't look for a big sword fight in the desert. Personally, I'll take our Father with a simple rock in His hand opposed to any Alien or any technology they might have.


08-24-2004, 02:57 PM
Well, here we go with my dream/visions agian... I had this one 3 times. The settings were all a bit different but it always happened in a desert place. As I was standing and looking at the night sky I saw the moon turn to red. It got very hot and it began to swirl with dark clouds and red gasses of sorts as if it was imploding in a great heat. Then as I was looking I saw a dreadful face in the smoke of it appear. After this I saw the stars move directly downward as if the earth fell off of is axis, or back on it, and when this happened I saw fire balls fall from the sky and hit the ground with explosions and great heat. As this was taking place I looked around me and saw all the people who were vacationing at this lake in the desert and they were all speachless and frozen still at what was happening. When I saw this I also saw into their minds and everyone was thinking the same thing, My God ! They were all in one accord and all the silly whims seemed to vanish. It was a wonderful moment inspite the seeming terror as all of mankind was still and put away their petty differences and accusations. It was a sincere moment of truth. One of the other dreams I had pertaining to this "event" placed me in Las Vegas. It was as if there was a 12 mag earthquake. The building were collapsing all about me and people were being crushed by the falling debris. I felt to dodge my way down the stairs of the hotel I was stayig at as to avoid the fallout and Father told me to not be affraid and to keep walking forward down the stairs and out the door without trying to avoid danger. When He said this I immediatley paused and walked down the stairs of the hotel I was at without worring about the roof falling in on me and the such. I saw debris from the ceiling fall inches away from each of my shoulders and in front of me as every one of them missed me. I saw people being crushed by the falling ceiling and then He told me, "They will fall to the right and fall to the left but you will stand". I just kept walking and made it to the main doors. As I walked out I could see the devistation of the city. It was in rubble and ruins. There were dead bodies laying everywhere and people were screaming and running every which way. There was a doctor near me who immediatly begain to seek out whom he could help and I thought to do the same. Just as I thought this Father said, "No, Leave the city". And so I did. And I heard a familiar scripture that says, "Let the dead bury the dead". I dont know if it was Father or if it was just a memory verse that came to mind. At first I was saddened to see so many killed and injured but when Father said that to me all I could see was a path before me as everthing else was a distant thought. I made it to the outskirts of the city and then I looked up and saw the moon. Seems I see the moon allot in my visions but dont really know what it illustrates. As I was looking I saw a white horse running gracefully and hastfully as a projection on the moon. Then after a short time I saw a Lion sitting, again all these things being projected on the moon as a theater screen. After this I saw the Lion turn into a Lamb and I thought to myself, hmmm, doesnt the Lamb turn into a Lion? This still puzzles me today. Afther these things I saw before me a simple path that winded around some green rolling hills and I ventured off into this "paridise" never to return again. The vision ended before I could see what was on the other side of these beautiful hills but nonetheless I knew I was finally home and I will never forget the glow of the hills and green grass and the glow of the sunlight that I saw. I was like stepping into a grand movie with a most brilliant and majestic ending and fading into sunlight. And all I could think was, I am finally home.

If anyone can help me to understand some of these things, the symbols perhaps, I would really enjoy whatever you may want to share. Sometimes just little comments really illuminate so much. When Rhermen said yesterday about Adam and Eve being taken to another "planet", garden, pertaining to the vision I shared it really blessed me. It is wonderful to have knowledge of what it is I am seeing and it makes it so much more tangable. Sometimes just the littlest of things really help with the connection.


08-24-2004, 05:06 PM
Wow sister, that was quite a post! Dream symbolism is quite personal, pertaining to that individual. Rarely do dreams need to be taken literaly. But there are always exceptions. Tell me HeGoesB4Me, were you watching yourself in the dream as from above or nearby, or were you doing the things in the dream? Going through your post, it would seem your dream perspective was one of actually participating. I'm not an expert on these things, but this does seem to be an important difference in one's dream perspective. It is said that one's T/A sometimes uses vivid imagery like you describe to gain your attention-I think it worked!

08-24-2004, 05:10 PM
Here's another website to investigate if any one chooses:

www.drboylan.com (http://www.drboylan.com)

I make no endorsement of belief or disbelief. I only wish to contribute more to an ongoing search for Truth.

08-24-2004, 06:07 PM
LOL... Yes, it works well. I am the participant in the dreams. What do you think this implies. I also saw that you posted a link below so I will look at that too.


Wow sister, that was quite a post! Dream symbolism is quite personal, pertaining to that individual. Rarely do dreams need to be taken literaly. But there are always exceptions. Tell me HeGoesB4Me, were you watching yourself in the dream as from above or nearby, or were you doing the things in the dream? Going through your post, it would seem your dream perspective was one of actually participating. I'm not an expert on these things, but this does seem to be an important difference in one's dream perspective. It is said that one's T/A sometimes uses vivid imagery like you describe to gain your attention-I think it worked!

08-24-2004, 06:07 PM
In my opinion there is one overriding factor that might sum up the purpose of all that is going on in our world: to raise our consciousness, individually and globally.

This is the world of Christ Michael's Seventh Bestowal. I believe we can all agree on that from our study of the Urantia Book. As such, I believe that it is of SUPREME importance that our world attain Light and Life, sooner or later. If Urantia fails to attain this level of global consciousness, Nebadon cannot, at least not entirely! While it is individualy true that "if all earthly things crash, what does it matter to one who knows God" it has become vital to Nebadon that Urantia continue to progress towards Light and Life.

Throughout each of the other six bestowals, Michael didn't fail. Neither did He choose our world, that we should fail. I cannot stress enough how strongly I feel it is necessary for each of us in our daily life to know the Truth, to speak the Truth, and to the best of our ability, to LIVE the TRUTH that we may demonstrate the Father to our sleeping brothers and sisters. No, we can't make them believe, but we can let our light shine as brightly as possible.

Because we don't have much time. For us it's going to be sooner not later.

Other worlds of normal evolutionary status, having worthy Planetary Princes, Material Sons and Daughters, who didn't rebel, gain aeons of time for their worlds to evolve.

We have Michael and we must achieve Light and Life! For us the process is going to be unique and soon. We must be ready! When the storm hits we must be the calm peaceful center that we might reveal the Father to our angry, hateful, vengeful, violent and suffering brothers and sisters.

I cannot give you details because each and every choice that is made on our world right now alters the approching storm. The best way to prepare is to become more aware of your self and your surroundings. Practice being calm no matter what may be happening around you. Go deep to the Father Within and ask if any of these things are true. Listen carefully for the Answer!

08-24-2004, 06:34 PM
Amen ! Father gave me this vision last year. I was at a house with people there who were having a get together. All of a sudden as I was standing out in the back yard that was over looking a cliff and an ocean I saw that the water was troubled. The waves were crashing into the cliff and it was very stormy. After this I went into the front of the house and I saw a terrible storm comming. It was like a cloud of black smoke and dust like a whirlwind. It was the most dreadful storm I had ever seen. As it got closer, and rapidly at that, I saw that the storm was brining with it fire and the ground was catching fire too. As it got even closer I saw that dreadful face in it agian like I did the moon in the other dream. It was like the face of evil and hate. I stood there as it got closer and the fire was getting closer to the house until it caught the house on fire but the fire did not get touch me. Then the face or intelligents in the storm intentionaly tried to through fire at my feet to harm me but the floor I was standing on in the house soked up the flame so that it did not touch me. I went into the back yard to tell the others but no one was able to hear me nor could they even if I tried so I did not say anything. It was like I was invisible and nothing I could do or say would have caught their attention. Then the dream was over.

I talked to a friend of mine that morning after the dream and told her about it and she told me that her husband had the exact same dream. I told her of the details and she told me that her husbands dream was identical.


08-25-2004, 06:13 PM
Well, maybe your understanding of it needed a little adjustment. Many times we say we dont believe in something or have a problem with something when what is really taking place is that we dont believe it in the light it is presented in. When we hear it correctly we generaly say...oh... ok... ya.

HeGeos :)Wow did I ever get an adjustment on the anniversary of Jesus' birth, what an experience!

08-25-2004, 06:41 PM
Maybe sister, if enough of us unite together in the "House of Forgiveness", the storm might not be so bad. Of course, as your vision seems to indicate, and my personal experience agrees, few of our siblings are aware of, nor do they seem to care about any approaching storm. Indeed most don't seem to believe it's even possible. I guess it'll be up to a select few to make the House "Stormproof."

08-25-2004, 07:07 PM
I believe the vision or dream perspective is impostant in that, from the first person perspective of actually participating in the dream, it becomes more personal as maybe a letter from one's Father Fragment to one's conscious self.

But I believe the perspective as from a spectator watching from above or nearby could be from one's soul perspective making the dream as a letter from one's soul to one's conscious self.

Or maybe these interpretations should be reversed, I'm not sure.

In the vision I had on August 21st, the perspective seemed to shift from one to the other. I even seemed to get a little older at the end of the vision.

08-26-2004, 01:48 PM
Maybe sister, if enough of us unite together in the "House of Forgiveness", the storm might not be so bad. Of course, as your vision seems to indicate, and my personal experience agrees, few of our siblings are aware of, nor do they seem to care about any approaching storm. Indeed most don't seem to believe it's even possible. I guess it'll be up to a select few to make the House "Stormproof."

Ya, I have had the same thoughts myself. He is showing us this for a reason so we will play a specific part in it all. So far what I have "gained" from it is that I will not be affected by it and it wont touch me. I know He will tell us much more when the time comes. I think your vision the other day on the 21st was awsome !


09-20-2004, 10:03 AM
While I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist, I strongly believe that all is not what it seems concerning the War on Terror or the Truth as to what is occuring there. I make no endorsements, but here are two links that Father may direct some to check out for themselves:

www.truthout.org (http://www.truthout.org)

www.zmag.org (http://www.zmag.org)

09-21-2004, 06:29 PM
Your vision reminds me of the red sky prophecy of Stalking Wolf located here: http://www.theurantiaboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2775 (http://www.theurantiaboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2775)

09-22-2004, 07:54 AM
Bush and Kerry are both alumni of Skull and Bones (so is Bush's father George HW Bush, and grandfathers Prescott Bush and Herbert Walker). I truely believe that Skull and Bones is one of the most dangerous organizations of hidden power in the world. They have connections with other sinister organizations such as the Illuminati which originated from Germany. There are also connections between them and the Nazis. In fact, Prescott Bush and the bank he managed were prosecuted for trading with the Nazi's during WW II (although it didn't stop him from becoming a Senator later!). A large portion of the Bush fortune is directly attributed to Prescott's business dealings with the Nazis. The Illuminati tried to use their puppet Adolph Hitler for their agenda of one world government (New World Order) with them as the rulers; and although that plan failed, they have been secretively manifesting their agenda ever since by using many puppets they have placed in power (Democrat and Republican). They were instrumental in ensuring the event of 9/11 (which if you do some serious reading about you'll realize there are gapping holes the size of Mt. Everest in the official story) so that they could then bring forth the Patriot Act, which erodes the Constitution and Bill of Rights, with no serious outcry from the public ("I don't care if you take my rights away, just protect me!!"). The Patriot Act I & II are key steps in taking over this country and bringing forth the NWO.

Bush and Kerry are definitely two sides of this same evil coin -- puppets of the Illuminati and their NWO agenda. George Bush, Sr. even publically announced the creation of a NWO when he was president! -- of course most people had no idea what he was really referring to.

The puppet masters have not given us a choice this election, they only let us think we have a choice. Bush's evil has become very apparent for those with eyes to see, but beware of Kerry also. As a student of astrology I've seen Kerry's natal chart and it has the classic signature of a deceiver.

Also, as a side note, since the publication of "The Bible Code" several years ago, many people have done their own searches and have posted their results on several websites dedicated to relevent 'hidden' information found in the Aramaic version of the Old Testament. I read that someone recently found the the following: 'GW Bush' and then intersecting it was the sentence 'High Priest of Belial'. My understanding is that Belial is an ancient demon who demands human sacrifice.

Keep your heads up and informed and may the Great Spirit bless and protect us all during the coming tribulation.

Also see http://www.theurantiaboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2915

09-22-2004, 10:35 AM
What is a natal chart? What does it say? And what is the history behind this? I will also look it up on the net.


09-22-2004, 12:21 PM
The friend of mine who wrote this is an astrologer. A natal chart is the birth chart of where the planets were on the day and time and location of the person in questions birth. The freind who write that post is Sidra. She is a member of http://www.ppisc.net (http://www.ppisc.net/).

09-25-2004, 09:29 PM
Doesn't the UB dismiss astrology? But no matter. I found Stalking Wolf's prophecy link to be quite interesting, Shadow Wolf. I'm also somewhat familiar with the Rense site. There is also www.unknowncountry.com (http://www.unknowncountry.com/)

I believe we've been duped, lied to, played for fools, but that isn't where we need to focus. The Truth of these matters will be made known soon. It comes down to Forgiveness as only by forgiving our leaders who have abused their priviledged positions of power can the healing begin on our world. Blame will only insure the things of dire prophecy will come to pass.

Has the first vision of starvation come to pass? I don't think so, not yet anyway. In this vision blame is a key element. The allusion to the "Children of the Earth" I find to be important. Even now the governments of the world are covertly experimenting with weather modification and control. Of course very few believe this. Some demand proof. I will offer a question; when was the last time four hurricanes pounded Florida or the south in one season? Last summer saw more tornadoes than ever before. The weather of our world is a system and any time one part is adjusted it will affect all parts with unforseen consquenses. In Hawaii where atmospheric carbon dioxide is measured, the content is now around 390 ppm. Before the industrial revolution, it was measured to be around 250 ppm. This is causing the lower atmosphere to hold more heat, but at the same time the stratosphere is getting colder, increasing the violence of storms. My point is that it isn't too late to stop these problems from getting out of hand. We must stop burning fossil fuels, namely coal, natural gas, and oil. Unfortunately, the rulers of our world won't give up their source of profit as they control the power grid and natural resources of the world. The implications, if true, are too overwhelming for most of us to consider. Because all electricity, water, sewage, gasoline, diesel are controlled by the powers-that-be and we law abiding citizens have no real freedom with out these things. We would quickly starve.

There are non-polluting renewable forms of power available now that our govt really doesn't want us to find out about, like zero point energy and others, that could easily replace fossil fuels as our global energy source.

09-26-2004, 04:45 AM
The pattern is in everything. It can be used as idol worship or it can tell a story.


09-26-2004, 07:20 AM
I have no idea of what the UB upholds or dismisses. I am strictly Bible. Will be awhile until I can get to the UB to read it.

I do believe that the first vision has come true. During the famine of the first comes a new disease the way it is described it can only be AIDS.

The second is about the ozone holes.

09-26-2004, 02:53 PM
One does not have to go to far to see man made clouds and weather. Look up. The clouds look different from natural clouds. The edges and shape are different and the color is different. They look more like they were drawn than they do natural. The color I am reminded about is pollution brown when I see them.

These articles are about project HAARP and man made weather.

Smoking Guns and “Evil Weather” http://www.enterprisemission.com/did_haarp.htm (http://www.enterprisemission.com/did_haarp.htm)

'Smoking Gun' Signal from Turret Mt.? (http://www.enterprisemission.com/pulscld.html) http://www.enterprisemission.com/pulscld.html

More Anomalous Radar Rings (http://members.tripod.com/~DELTA_9/index.html) http://members.tripod.com/~DELTA_9/index.html (http://members.tripod.com/~DELTA_9/index.html)

Critics Fire Blanks, Big Guns Are Still Firing in Texas (http://www.enterprisemission.com/critic.htm) http://www.enterprisemission.com/critic.htm

This web site has a lot of interesting articles. They are watchdog scientists. www.enterprisemission.com (http://www.enterprisemission.com/)

09-26-2004, 04:09 PM
Perhaps it is just time for us to wake up and see how the whole world is just a screen. Manybe "men" are just exposing it with their gadets. It is like something His spirit told me once, He said, His principals are always at work spiritualy, behind the scenes, and men always do "it" whatever "it" is. What takes place in the invisible is always illustrated in the visible. So no matter what "it" is always exposed". When I see the devices of man I just seek Father on what it is illustrating in the unseen. Then the unseen is not so unseen anymore. All the things that happen in this physical realm regardless of intent on mans part exoses something taking place in Gods realm but the meaning is not quite the same.

what do you think/know is the meaning behind these "false" clouds?


09-26-2004, 05:42 PM
Hmm in what aspect? There are several perspectives to think about? All nations want to be better at this or that because to them it equates to power. Weather is no different. Then there is the mind control aspect, what country would not want to have that? Both are rather selfish, in my opinion, but than most folk do not have GOD and the giving up of self. Looked at in the light of arms race and the oil race, the thing being controlled is different but the end objective is the same.

09-27-2004, 06:54 PM
Yes, sides are really all the same and wanting the same thing. Control. How I see it is that regardless of intent on man part Father has His working in the background anyway and ultimately. So I tent to seek what He is doing behind the scenes regardless of mens intent. It is like Daniel and the lions den. What they may build for harmful intent Father uses for different purposes, nature. At another level all the things seen in the physical realm expose something taking place in the spiritual realm. So in essence everyone witness "it" or does "it" no matter what but how it is experienced depends much on ones intent when building "it". I guess I know for myself that all these things will be wonderful in my own experience and much of it wont touch me anyway other than how Father intends it for my life... It just doesnt matter what peoples intents are.


09-29-2004, 07:52 AM
That's right HeGoes, any prophecy or vision that paints a picture of doom and gloom cannot be taken seriously because Father never works from wrath. Our reality isn't about punishment of sin, it's about growth in the Spirit. We must learn to take responsibility for our actions. The only way those in priviledged positions of authority can abuse their power is because we have allowed it.

Sure, it's been quoted before "What does it matter if all earthly things crash to one who knows God?" It matters because we are connected to the Earth as long as we dwell in the flesh and all things are connected in God. If we care about God, we must also care about each other and our world. God is Love. Such doom and gloom prophecies are about blame, not Love. None of us are perfect and we all have made imperfect choices.

It always looks the darkest just before the dawn.

09-29-2004, 08:28 AM
Hmm I disagree. The bible is full of testimony otherwise. The Israelites were always being punished. There is another perspective though, that God allows the consequences of evil action. There is plenty of it in the New Testament as well. I can think of one off the top of my head a husband and wife who lied to God and were struck down where they stood.

09-29-2004, 12:06 PM
That's right HeGoes, any prophecy or vision that paints a picture of doom and gloom cannot be taken seriously because Father never works from wrath..

To prophetize is to convey probabilities. To prophetize the likelihood of some "gloom and doom" event with a sufficient understanding of the reasons behind such an event has nothing to do with promoting the idea of God's wrath. The means available for achieving the "directives" programmed into the earth's system should not be confused with the conscious choices of a punishing God. The system itself is an "intelligence" and to meet its directives it has options. The necessities of these options, the probabilities of their being chosen, exist as a functions (dependents) of human consciousness, functions of the probability that humans will make CREATIVE choices that assist the system in the accomplishment of its directives. The primary directive is the raising of human consciousness as necessary to save and support the evolution of the larger system while at the same time preserving humanity. Humanity must be preserved both because of the experiences God seeks through humanity and because the earth system's intelligence is in many respects a product of the intelligence of the creatures residing within that system. All entities are "systems" and their experiential intelligence feeds into the systems they are a part of and then that system feeds its intelligence to the next system, etc., etc. Anyway, the important thing to understand now is that both the survival and the evolution of the earth's "system" depend upon the raising of consciousness of humanity. Consciousness can be raised a number of ways and is best "jumpstarted" via "surrender" to God but the primary ways that consciousness is raised are TRAGEDY and INSPIRATION. Humans have free will and thus the opportunity to CREATE EVENTS that reach mass consciousness and INSPIRE it to HIGHER LEVELS. One way to do that would be to arrange a world-leader summitt, followed by a major celebration, at which all world leaders join hands to denounce the continued pursuit, production, and possession of nuclear weapons and committ to eliminating their country's arsenals. If humans do not CHOOSE to CREATE the events that raise consciousness the "system" will create events by exercising its control over aspects of and within it that do not interfere with human free will. It will do so via the creation of events that achieve the greatest possiible raising of consciousness per amount and time period of suffering that is experienced due to the event. A very large earthquake is such an event and to prophetize the strong probability of such an event amidst the continued absence of CREATIVE CHOICES among humans has absolutely nothing to do with wrath or punishment.

Hope that helps.


09-29-2004, 04:54 PM
Sorry guys. I guess I wasn't clear in my allusion to which prophecy. From Stalking Wolf's prophecy:

"I had a vision," Grandfather said, "It was a vision of the destruction of man. But man was given four warnings to that destruction, two of which gave man a chance to change his ways and two of which would give the children of the Earth time to escape the Creator's wrath."

yes frogigr, I agree that these times in which we live, all the joys, as well as all the sorrows, are the direct result of an uplifting of our consciousness. The dawn of a new reality where we have a much greater understanding of ourselves and God is just around the corner. We are co-creating a new reality of light and life.

That the Bible, ShadowWolf, portrays prophecies as being punishment of wrongdoers reflects the limited understanding of our ancestors concerning God. It, in no way, is a true reflection of God Himself. We who have a personal relationship with Father know that He would be greatly displeased, but He would never EVER kill His children for lying to Him. A loving Father does not kill His children. For a true portrayal of God we need only study the life of Jesus as written in the UB part IV. Can you imagine Jesus killing someone for lying to him, or for that matter killing for any reason? I can't.

The same goes for the atonement doctrine or the original sin. God would never EVER punish His elder Son in place of His younger children. Neither would He hold all His children responsible for the mistakes of a few. No loving Father would. That some actually believe these things of God is pure UGLINESS!

"The spirit warrior spoke to Grandfather, saying, 'These are the things yet to come that will mark the destruction of man. These things you may never see, but you must work to stop them and pass these warnings on to your grandchildren. They are the possible futures of what will come if man does not come back to the Earth and begin to obey the laws of Creation and the Creator. There are four signs, four warnings, that only the children of the Earth will understand. Each warning marks the beginning of a possible future.' With that the spirit warrior was gone, and Grandfather was left alone in this strange new world.

I personally consider driving a car to be a sin. Let me restate that-I consider the burning of fossil fuels [coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear power] to be a sin against Mother Earth. These things are destroying her fagile eco-system balance. The same goes for all manner of short-sighted industrial pollution which is poisoning our world. By the way, I don't own a car and I haven't for more than two years now [but I have in the past]. Father has made it possible for me to do His Will without gasoline. Very few people realize the damage they're doing to Mother Earth every time they fill their tank and start their car.

I believe the vision given to grandfather is an attempt to raise our awareness concerning the wrongs we are doing to Mother Earth. The reference concerning "Children of the Earth" seems to indicate those who are aware that this planet is a conscious entity and deserves to be honored by us, not raped, poisoned, and dishonored in every way in the name of profit.

A Good Father teaches His children why something is wrong and has patience with them until they finally learn the lesson. He will even send Big Brother to show them what they're doing wrong. He doesn't kill them before they have a chance to learn what He's trying to teach!

The problem comes when the children cannot understand or refuse to admit their wrongs, or learn from their mistakes, or blame others and attempt to avoid responsibility for their own choices. We may destroy ourselves by stupidity or not caring, but it won't be God that destroys us.

09-30-2004, 01:00 PM

Thanks for expounding on your point. It was helpful. On the subject of environmental responsibility such as is evidenced by your not driving a car I have a couple of things to say. First, thank you for your assumption of responsibility and for setting an example. Second, the issue you have is very much related to why humanity's path to "light and life" can only exist with and through God and not simply via behaioral choices/standards. Here is what I mean. While all the point you make about the environmental impact of cars are probably true, and your behavioral example is important, it would be nothing but highly destructive to establish that example as a standard. If everyone agree to stop driving cars within the next year humanity could not survive, at least not in a manner that serves the evolution of the group. Too many people depend on too many products and services and too many jobs that require levels of human mobility that can only be provided by cars. It must start with surrender to God and then He must put His instructions on our hearts and minds that guide us at HIS PACE FOR US to change our behavioral patterns according to a schedule that facilitates the group's evolution. Five years from now maybe I too will not be driving cars; right now giving up my car is not among the things God has shown me I need to do. Humanity's evolution will be facilitated by the sum and lengthy succession of individuals' higher-consciousness choices over an extended period of time in order to provide for the greatest education and to avoid shocks to the system greater than it can bear. Accordingly, while it is admirable that you have given up the use of a car it would be inappropriate to demand that others do so (Nor have I detected you doing so). To the contrary our "mission" is to inspire others to choose to "surrender" to God by helping them understand all the reasons for doing so so that, in turn, God may help them to make environmentally and socially responsible choices at the right time. This jive with you?



09-30-2004, 02:39 PM
Yes, frogigr, I agree with your ideas concerning the pace being set by Father. However, due to the rebellion, Father temporarily let humanities' pace be set by the servants of profit. We could label them "Illuminati" or any other name you wish. The point is they have been allowed to control humanity by limiting our freedoms and knowledge of Truth. In essence, they have kept humanity addicted to the use of fossil fuels. Yes, as you correctly point out, our global economy is based on the consumption of oil, coal, and natural gas. Yes, people depend on their cars. Having lived for 16 years of my life in Southern California, I can well understand this. People have chosen to drive internal combustion automobiles, because there was no viable alternative. The dependency on fossil fuels has been carefully orchestrated by followers of Lucifer, Satan, and Caligastia. This going to change soon.

This is one of many areas where the powers-that-be have intentionally limited our freedom. Any time an inventor/scientist came up with something better, the patent office, corporations, or govt made sure the discovery or proto-type never became available, discredited as a hoax, or confiscated due to national security. There have been some very gifted scientists/inventors [like Nikola Tesla] who have understood the relationship between energy and matter, but only a few of their inventions have become used. The rest were carefully put away in secret storage, available to only a select few individuals, or to be "discovered" when deemed expedient by the powers-that-be.

I believe an incredible inventory of confiscated technologies, that has been secretly collected for the last century from all over the world, will become available soon. This technology is non-polluting and based on renewable forms of energy that for the most part, is free of operating cost. When they become available to all Urantians, a new level of personal, financial, transportational, and educational freedom will be achieved. But it will also mean a new level of responsibility.

This will pave the way for a paradigm shift in spiritual understanding. Unfortuantely, the next 10-25 years are going to be one of the most difficult times in the history of our world. No, I'm not attempting prophecy, but those who serve profit aren't going to give up without a struggle. The entire War on Terror is an example of what I'm talking about.

09-30-2004, 04:56 PM

09-30-2004, 07:56 PM
Excellent posts ! The more there are of those who reveive responsibility over license the resistance will be exponencailly lowered. And we can travel light without the market of those who think they may suppress it. Minds and hearts are progressing rapidly and the resistance will be powerless even as our own resistance is at mercy to His counsel that has brought us out. Embracing the true nature of Father can not be reconed with nor is there an equal to oppose it. The nature of Father is fully being exposed and understood.


10-01-2004, 04:44 PM
I rarely quote the UB directly, but this time a couple of quotes seem appropriate:

paper 46 page 529:

[When Satania can return to the constellation fold, then will come up for consideration the readmission of the isolated worlds into the system family of inhabited planets, accompanied by their restoration to the spiritual communion of the realms. But even if Urantia were restored to the system circuits, you would still be embarrassed by the fact that your whole system rests under a Norlatiadek quarantine partially segregating it from all other systems.

But ere long, the adjudication of Lucifer and his associates will restore the Satania system to the Norlatiadek constellation, and subsequently, Urantia and the other isolated spheres will be restored to the Satania circuits, and again will such worlds enjoy the privileges of interplanetary communication and intersystem communion.

There will come an end for rebels and rebellion. The Supreme Rulers are merciful and patient, but the law of deliberately nourished evil is universally and unerringly executed. "The wages of sin is death"--eternal obliteration.]

and then paper 65 page 740:

[When physical conditions are ripe, sudden mental evolutions may take place; when mind status is propitious, sudden spiritual transformations may occur; when spiritual values receive proper recognition, then cosmic meanings become discernible, and increasingly the personality is released from the handicaps of time and delivered from the limitations of space.]

It is a wonderful privilege and honor to be alive at this time. This is sure to be one one the most incredible periods in the history of our world! No, it isn't going to be easy, but with Father's Help, everything will be OK.

10-01-2004, 04:52 PM

I believe it would be even more appropriate to say that it will be one one the most incredible periods in the history of your Universe.


10-01-2004, 05:49 PM
Sigh... soon please...

10-02-2004, 09:08 AM

11-12-2004, 01:32 PM
Hi...been a long time since I was here : )

I was just reading a fiction book that is based on facts surrounding the illusive illuminati.

Angels and Demons...by Dan Brown

Dan Brown also authored...the di Vinci Code

I hope that helps....(interesting book..I have just started it)


11-12-2004, 05:23 PM
I have receintly read all 4 of his books... they were really good. All of them.

Good to see you again... :)

11-18-2004, 09:35 AM
Hi there,

I have written extensively about the Illuminati, the Moneychangers and the Banksters. See: http://freeurantia.org/PaulBond.htm My book is Knowledge Without Wisdom.


11-19-2004, 04:53 PM
Hey Paul,
I'm trying to get a calendar correction documenting Jesus's birth date as 7BC @ noon 21st August and thusly establishing a zero-point to reckon time and right the current Gregorian one that we all use. My only consideration is getting the world to understand just exactly who the midwayers are and what their commission is all about in the revelation's story. Once this is done the papers can be promulgated world wide and the "lost" seven years becomes the PEACE window in time that we can all step through into the new era out there. I feel, like you , that Lucifer's adjudication and the reestablish-
ing of the system circuits will happen if not simultaneously then not too far apart in time. But I think that this Zero-point is what is needed to go glabal all at once. Maybe even a calendar that can be drawn up with 13 pages juxtopposed to the months. Can you help me? I'd hoped to get this done a month before 21st December 2004 since we entered 2012 (2004+7=2011) this past August 21st @ noon. This day should be an international holiday and also the new Christmas relegating December 25th to be Yuletide, Santa Claus day or whatever the secular/commercial world deems appropriate. Also this would be the new New Year's Day when you really think about it and because of the time zones globally we can encompass the planet. A few things must be worked out but we could do it. This could work for the good of all! I dare you to help me get this done. IT'S THE NEXT STEP.

MICHAEL SOL of Santa Fe>E-mail me or call please> StarofIla@Yahoo.com
(505) Area Code (983-7653) Much Love to You and Yours

11-29-2004, 09:28 PM
The Illuminatti is an ancient organization that believes in science over spirituality, they believe that science is pure and God is a myth. They believe that all of the world was created by pure energy colliding into itself and creating what we now know as Earth. Gallileo, Berninin, Washington were all a part of this organization, stay tuned...

11-30-2004, 09:54 AM
Hey Antimatter ! Well they got half of it right...


Jorge Castillo
12-07-2004, 07:40 PM
You've come to take control
You can take my heartbeat
But you can't break my soul
We all shall be free

You'll never take control
Your new world order
Will lead to none at all
We all stand before you as one
Heaven is for everyone
To be free from the dark

That's the Intro to The Gamma Ray CD Album: New World Order.
THis album rings clear as a CD of Spiritual Positivity

Check out the Book of Mark Brauneis in which he talks about the secret movements tha try to rule our world.

There you can find more information about the So-called Illuminati

You've come to take control
You can take my heartbeat
But you can't break my soul
We all shall be free

You'll never take control
Your new world order
Will lead to none at all
We all stand before you as one
Heaven is for everyone
To be free from the dark

12-20-2004, 11:33 AM
I sometimes wonder if the Masonic Lodge is any different as most of the founding fathers of USA were/are Masons...

And then there is the Knights Templar, another secret society with their own agenda. When secret societies must plot and scheme behind closed doors, one must ask why do they fear to bring their plans out into the light?

12-20-2004, 03:36 PM

My take is that people who are willing to work entirely openly should be allowed to know who their work is open to. Absent that there is a risk of "privelege" among those who have greater access as well as the risk of observers being misled. This has nothing to do with the Masons or the Templars.


02-05-2005, 09:38 AM
Outside the Ultimate Tyranny

Content of „Bringers of the Dawn“, pg. 87 - 96, Chapter Eight.

The ultimate tyranny in a society is not control by martial law. It is control by the psychological manipulation of consciousness, through which reality is defined so that those who exist within it do not even realize that they are in prison. They do not even realize that there is something outside of where they exist. We represent what is outside of what you have been taught exists. It is where you sometimes venture and where we want you to dwell; it is outside of where society has told you you can live.

You have been controlled like sheep in a pen by those who think they own you-from the government to the World Management Team to those in space. You have been deprived of knowledge by frequency control. Think of frequency as individual broadcasting and receiving through which you dial into the station of your choice. It is the broadcasting of carrier waves of intelligence. The range of frequency is unlimited, and the range of intelligent matter transmitted is unlimited.

www.universe-people.com (http://www.universe-people.com/)

02-05-2005, 04:47 PM
I am sorry I don't have a link for this article.

The Illuminati Formula to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Control Slave CHAPTER 11 INTERNAL CONTROLS

By Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler


Learning plays an important part in perception. The Programmers try to get their victims to subscribe to philosophies and ideas that will make it hard for them to rebel against their controllers. This is what is termed indoctrination. The same methods of teaching that others find useful are employed. Ways of thinking are incorporated by the slave via handlers, programmers, and the cult they belong to. Everyone tries in their own way to make sense of life. This is a natural brain fun-ction, so that the human mind can understand how to deal with the future. The mind takes raw data, and then applies some type of logic, and comes to conclusions. Once accepted, these conclusions can be as hard as nails, and they will defy any attempt to change them, even in the light of new evidence. If the Programmer is smart enough, he can get an alter to logically believe anything. Once the belief is embedded, it will remain there tenaciously. In the Illuminati, ‘great” masters and adepts teach “hidden mysteries”. The slave feels the authority that emanates from this teacher with special gifts and abilities.

The slave is hardly in a position to question the teachings being given from on high. Circular reasoning, lies, and other tricks are used to convince the person that the occult world is true. For instance, “God abandoned you, therefore you need to cling to us, the only ones who would see any use in you.” (The truth is that the cult staged a crisis where their actor playing God abandoned the child to the cult’s abusiveness. The whole event was simply cult abuse--with God taking the blame.) “We are trying to fashion a better man, a man with far more capabilities than before, with better genetics. Those who oppose us, are trying to keep humankind back in the dark ages.” This is circular reasoning and outright lies. (They are not interested in helping mankind, only destroying it.) To make occult philosophies more palatable, the occult world attacks the character of anyone whose life would dispute their false claims. They also use a great deal of rationalization, where the end justifies the means. Many slaves have had to sit and listen to their masters rationalize their brutality. Within the Illuminati, ranks are achieved with much learning and ritual.

Within the Temple of Set, a member is required to read certain books. Fritz, the co-author has a list of books a Temple of Set member is asked to read, with the comments attached by the Temple of Set to each suggested title. In their suggested/required reading Category 19 entitled “The Metamind” is Metropolis by Thea von Harbou. Their comments are “An Expressionistic portrait of a negative utopia in which humans are controlled by machines.. .the basis for many electronic/audio-visual ritual techniques employed by the Church of Satan and further developed by the Temple of Set.” (p. C21-2) Another is Physical Control of the Mind: Towards a Psychocivilized Society by Jose M.R. Delgado. Their comments, “Delgado, Professor of Physiology at Yale University, is one of the most distinguished authorities in the field of Electrical/chemical Stimulation of the Brain (ESB). This book is necessarily dated, but it is so well-written that it deserves to be perused as a preface to more recent works on the subject.” (p.C-16?-2) The Psychology of Anomalous Experience by Graham Reed. Their comments, “This book addresses unusual, irregular, and puzzling experiences- deja’vu, illusions, delusions, hallucinations, etc.-in terms of the mind’s normal psychological processes of gathering, monitoring, processing, and storing information.” (ibid.)

This is just a brief look to illustrate to the reader that leaders of groups like the Temple of Set are avid students of mind-control. (An almost complete membership list of this group at one point in time, is provided in Appendix A.) The librarian of the Multnomah County Detention Ctr. shared with co-author Fritz that Sheila, formerly second-in-command of the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh’s commune at Antelope, OR studied, via jail/prison interlibrary loan, books on Hitler’s mind-control techniques. Many other examples could be given of how mind-control is being studied and taught by these groups.

One more book on the Temple of Set’s reading list would be worthy to point out, The Psychology of Man’s Possible Evolution by Peter D. Ouspensky. Their comments, “Should be read especially by those members whose magical ability is hampered by flaws in their balance factor....A series of lectures which explain the Gurdjieff approach to the concept better than G. himself was able to do.” There is an important link between Gurdjieff, mind-control, MPD, etc. but the subject is big and needs to be further investigated. Co-author Fritz has been investigating this link, including talking with leaders of the most successful Gurdjieff commune. As with so many groups, what you see, is not what you get.

One of the ways to control a person is to get them angry and then channel that hate. Wars have been used for centuries by the oligarchies that run things to control their people. Right now, the New World Order is carrying out a Drug War, an Environmental War, and a Bosnian conflict for the express purpose in their own plans to control us. They have a mock-alien invasion planned to further justify more control over our lives. Over the years, mankind has created an entire industry around warfare. There are long traditions within military units, that for some reason must be “upheld” by the men who serve in those units. When people buy into the philosophies of war, they can generally be persuaded to give up or do anything to contribute to that war. After all, any sacrifice will be minor compare to the large numbers of bodies that will end up dead. One of the large purposes of the Monarch type of trauma-based mind-control is to produce robotic soldiers who will do anything. Normal military training is usually sufficient for most military needs, so it is clear that Monarch slaves have some ulterior uses that the military doesn’t want the public to know about.

The military as well as other groups have created numerous delta teams, delta forces, delta groups etc.

These teams are projects that the Satanic Hierarchy and the CIA collaborated together on. The programming that was placed into people was ingenious and very complex. As the program progressed over the years, the programming became more sophisticated and past mistakes were improved upon. The Delta Teams were programmed to carry out various assignments such as political assassinations. The members of these teams are housewives and other ordinary people who were programmed years ago. The Delta Teams are part of the CIA’s psychic warfare bag of tricks. The CIA works so closely with the military that the Delta Force is easily expected to be tied in with the CIA & U.S. intelligence.

The system tapped Frank Burns to create the Delta Force. Frank Burns was a Green Beret. What kind of things did Frank get involved with AFTER joining the military? Hold on. Frank Burns was an SDS (Students for a Democratic Society--an Illuminati organization) organizer. He was also deep into Zen Buddhism, which is the same as mysticism. Frank Burns as an officer also studied under the Esalen Institute. The Esalen Institute is at Big Sur, California and is the American equivalent of the infamous Tavistock Institute. The Esalen Institute created “sensitivity training” programs for the business world under the title “Organizational Development (OD). Esalen people were brought in to Fort Ord where Frank Burns was the commander and began training people. The army promoted Burns to work in the Chief of Staffs office as an “senior organizational effectiveness consultant”, which allowed Burns to introduce Esalen programs all through the army. This could not have accidently happened. Frank Burns in a conversation with a two-star General about the need for “wholistic” soldiers coined the slogan “Be all that you can be in the army.” Burns phraseology began the army’s recruiting slogan. It refers to the Human Potential Movement that the army has incorporated from the New Age movement. The army is moving toward becoming an occult fighting force that practices witchcraft with its warfare. Some of the units moving that direction are Psy-Op operations, which has included Satanists within its officers. The Delta Force network of various Generals and other high ranking officers is merely one facet of the drive by the Illuminati to transform the American army into something akin to occultic warriors that will be as fierce as the Nazi Death head units. Bear in mind that George Bush, commander-in-chief of Burn’s Armed Forces has come from an Illuminati family/ & the Ill. Skull & Bones chapter that was part of the secret support for Hitler. They have been using as an insignia that they themselves (the Skull & Boners) call “the Death Head”. It is not surprising then that support for the Delta Team activities has come from the very top. Frank Burns set out to create a warrior monk. Lt. Col. Jim Channon, in Delta Forces, also put forward the idea. Channon visited more than 130 New Age groups in California doing what was called “social experimentation.” It is an idea that the occult have repeatedly carried out. Hitler’s S.S. were an special elite group of warrior monks from which about 3,000 went through religious initiations. (As the war progressed the primary focus of the S.S. shifted from being the Black Order to merely being a reliable military group called the Waffen SS.) There were 3 levels of initiation, the last reserved for the hard-core Satanists at the top. The Nazi initiation seems to have been an attempt to get the force of the Vril. The Ordensburgen (Castles of the Order) were training centers for the elite Nazis, including the S.S. (Having been in the military, I know first hand that the success of the S.S. and Waffen S.S. units in being fierce warriors is attributed by some of our leading military men to their training to be warrior-monks.) One group of the S.S. called Knights of Poseidon volunteered themselves for castration, in an experiment to change them back to the supermen of the mythical and magical Hyperborea. Some of the best Sufi organizations were warrior monks. Burns and his Task Force Delta generated the First Earth Battalion, which is an occult military unit trained in martial arts, and witchcraft. Men who are selected for First Earth Battalion are given an occult initiation which includes the following oath:

“I have the capacity and therefore the duty to contribute to the development of myself, my associates, and our planet, simultaneously now! I take personal responsibility for generating evolutionary conspiracies as a regular part of my work. I will select and create conspiratorial mechanisms that are not costly in time or resources because I am aware of the five channels available to me (such as radio, television, and word of mouth.) I will organize a self-supporting high commando group that will create and perform evolutionary breakthrough actions on behalf of people and planet. One people, one planet. I will then pass this concept on to others who are capable of generating further self-organizing commando teams."

What ever happened to defending this nation? Military units such as the First Earth Battalion although they are supported by American tax dollars are not here to protect America. They are global minded. They are here to protect an occult world government. They are out there actively promoting the New World Order. Several years ago, Egendorf states that $4.5 million (which came from you and I, and other Americans) had already been spent on Delta Force’s 80 different projects. The Green Berets is another organization that has been heavily targeted by the Satanists, to indoctrinate and recruit. The Green Berets are increasingly moving toward being warrior-monk group. Many of them are now programmed multiples.

One man who is being looked up to by many American Patriots and Christian Patriots as the leader to help them oppose the New World Order is Bo Gritz. He was a recent presidential candidate. Bo Gritz was a Green Beret and a Delta Force commander. Bo Gritz is very proud of the fact that he wrote the manual for the Delta Forces. He also worked for the CIA. Bo Gritz is one of the military’s best programmed multiples, and perhaps one of the most dangerous. Insiders have told me he IS the most dangerous. Numerous insiders both for and against Bo, have talked about Bo Gritz, and that he is a programmed multiple.

According to Bo Gritz’s campaign literature for President he was a commander in Delta Forces. Reproduced on a previous page is Bo’s own presidential campaign literature where he states that he is “Intelligence Officer & Reconnaissance Chief, Delta Force.” He is also “Chief, Special Activities, U.S. Army General Staff, the Pentagon” and “Principle Agent, National Security Council, Intelligence Support Activity”. Under qualifications Bo states that he is a “Security & Counter-terrorist Specialist.” Within the government, they are already referring to Christians who are against the NWO as terrorists. Bo is their greatest counter-intelligence counter-terrorist they have. He came in like a storm and took control of the Patriot movement, and it has been like pulling teeth to warn patriots about who he is.

Bo Gritz himself was a Green Beret, and was used to assassinate 300 people. His blood lust caused him at one point during the Vietnam War to shoot 30 prisoners in cold blood. I also heard Bo talk about say being Temple recommend Mormon. That means he was at that time in good standing with the LDS [Later Day Saints] Mormon church so that he could go to the Temple and participate in its rituals. Those who are alert realize that the temple rituals are like Masonic and Witchcraft rituals. Now he is no longer a Mormon, but he still continues in the military philosophy he believes in. Bo Gritz is going around the nation teaching SPIKE training to anyone who wants martial arts skills. Bo has done an excellent job in identifying for the New World Order every person in the nation who could threaten their plans for a martial law NWO takeover.

Bo Gritz likes to call attention that he is one of this country’s foremost counter-terrorist agents. This is true. The New World Order believes patriots and Christians are terrorists, because they stand in the way of the world’s acceptance of their world dictator. Bo Gritz has done a great deal to infiltrate and neutralize the opposition to the New World Order. He has been their best counter-terrorist agent.


If a master has to constantly spend time whipping and motivating his slave, as well as forever watching that the slave doesn’t escape or do shoddy work, or physically or verbally injure the master, then controlling the slave can end up to be a full time job. When the master gets too much involved in the control process, he ceases to be master, and becomes a slave to the control process. The intelligence agencies knew that they would have to create mind control slaves who could police themselves. If the master has to constantly guard his slave, the slave will be more trouble than he is worth. Many successful people have gained their success because they knew how to delegate. The most successful supervisor is the one who can delegate the best. The programmers had to find ways to cut their supervisory requirements to the bone if they were to make owning a Monarch slave worthwhile. The method chosen was to build “computers” into the slave’s mind that would internally regulate everything.

They do this by taking hundreds of the alters and dehumanizing them and turning them into parts of a computer. For instance, the shutter on the All-seeing eye of the computer, which is seen in the mind like a camera shutter, is a child alter who job is to open and shut. (Another primal part is inside the eye’s pupil.) This shutter part knows what goes on in all the system subconsciously but if discovered by a therapist and pulled to the front of the mind will not be able to vocalize about the system. The software for this “computer” could be programmed into it, and all the individual programming of every alter can then be tied back to the computer. In other words, each alter would be programmed on how to view life, to act, to think, and to fun-ction in their job. This programming would be linked to a computer. The programmers invented the perfect method to decentralize their control over their slaves and yet still supervise with the tightest of control.

Each alter is linked to a computer (internal-not an external one) built from a foundation of fear and trauma. Since each section of alters was to remain secret, each section of alters for a slave is given its own computer, and then linking computers were built to link the various sections, and then finally a major backup computer is built, and then finally the internal Beast computer. Bear in mind that this is all built internally in the mind of the victim. We are not talking about actual physical computers built out of physical microchips, wires, condensers etc. If the programmer concentrates on a single point when giving instructions he will get better results. Rather than complicating things for the slave, you gain power over the slave (and any subordinate) if you can give simple clear instructions. For this reason, a large share of the alters in an alter system are given very clear straight forward jobs.

Because their jobs are so straightforward, these alters will often remain fragments, rather than alter parts with full blown personalities. The programmers don’t cloud the issue. An undeveloped alter will be given one single clear, basic job. By stringing 1,000’s of alters together with single tasks, a highly sensitive system of alters can be created. Each piece of the System is separated by some degree of dissociation to make it a separate piece. By dividing the mind so much, it is incapable of fighting what has been done to itself. Before we begin describing the technical details of an internal computer, bear in mind that every Monarch System is unique and yet they all follow certain patterns & methodologies. Most of the models for the first few decades follow these patterns, some of the newer ones have more updated imagery.

In an Illuminati System, a computer is created for each section of alters. That computer will be given a “power source”, which if unscrewed like a light bulb will go out. The light from one of these power sources might be emerald blue or emerald green or other color. The reader may want to refer to Chapter 4 (http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4chap.shtml) for the codes to understand the structuring of the various computers and systems.

In a standard 13x13x13 Illuminati alter system, 13 colors were used, and each computer was given a color. These would be pink, orange, yellow, white, red, brown, blue, green, black, purple, silver, gold and platinum, and clear. Color programming is reported to have been developed at UCLA. Whatever the case, Systems all over the United States have color programming. The hierarchy of colors in a System is often as follows (from top power down): Platinum, Gold, Silver, Purple, Black, Red, Green, Brown, White, Orange, Yellow, Pink. Clear is also used as a color for secret areas of the system. This hierarchy of color coding can be switched. The internal programmers can reassign colors if they need to, in order to protect the programming. Alters, sections, and parts of the computer are all color coded. The color coding for alters is not the same just because the alters are in the same section. The color coding within the Illuminati Mind Control is fairly consistent, however a sample of an alternative Illuminati color scheme will also be provided.

A survey of colors is as follows:

CLEAR. Secret or shell alters who can take on any color are coded clear. These are alters who serve as images or as a stage for other alters. This would include “Guardian of the Vail” alters.

GOLD. This color is for the supreme leadership in the System, which includes the Grand Druid Council.

SILVER. This color is for the Satanic alters who perform high level Satanic rituals. The Mothers of Darkness have silver coding.

PURPLE. These alters see themselves as the abusers, rather than the Illuminati. These alters were involved with the programming. They have been taught to forget the abuse and to reframe it in their mind as training.

BLACK. These alters were born out of Satanic ritual, and are Moon children. The Delta and Beta alters are black coded. They do the dirty work for the cult, such as blackmail and assassination.

RED. These altars see themselves as witches. They were born out of witchcraft ritual, believe they have great spiritual power, and tend to deny that they have been abused.

GREEN or EMERALD GREEN. These cat altars recognize they have been abused. They still see themselves as belonging to the cult family, and deny that they have been abused to protect their cult family.

BLUE ALTERS. Clones, armies and the ribbons appear to have blue coding. These alters will go so far as to hurt the body to protect it from leaking information or deprogramming.

WHITE. ‘These are Atlantean alters who have been given Aryan type racial nonsense to think they are superior. They believe in genetic engineering, and a master race.

ORANGE. These special protector alters are scouts who warn of danger from internal or external threats.

YELLOW. These are the strong Christian alters of which there will only be a few in the System. They help serve as a balancing point to control the System as well as to hide what the System is all about.

PINK. These are core related alters. They maintain the true feelings of the true self apart from the cult programming and the cult family’s programming. These alters are viewed as weak because they are emotional and often break down and weep. They are fragile emotionally.

An alternative color scheme that is used:

DARK EMERALD GREEN. This color is assigned to the AntiChrist-Satan alter(s). Green is the occult color for Satan and happens to be the most sacred color. Few people outside of Satanists know that Green is more sacred for them than any other color.

LIGHT GREEN. The gods and goddess alters which are triads which fun-ction in

Illuminati ceremonies get this color coding.

WHITE. The internal programmers who come around in white robes get this color assigned to them, as if they are doctors or angels of light.

RED. Sexual alters are given the natural color of sex and arousal red.

BLACK. Connecting alters that are Nexus alters between various system parts.

PINK. Reporting alters.

DARK BLUE. Non hierarchy cult alters.

LIGHT BLUE. Alters in charge of the way the system runs, such as the judges.

YELLOW. Alters which are ritually and sexually twinned with alters of other systems.

ORANGE. Guard alters which are heavily programmed for obedience.

VIOLET-PURPLE. Front alters and small child alters placed into boxes.

CLEAR. Shell alters to deceive the outside world.

GOLD. The traumatized alters upon which the programming is built on.

Joseph Mengele and the programmers who worked with and under him, used a large dollhouse with 26 rooms. Each of the rooms were painted with one of the 13 different colors in order to build into the child’s mind, the 13 front and the 13 back computers. The internal computers worked off of color codes, as well as other codes. A dollhouse was used to instill into the child’s minds the compartments of the computer. Each room was done up in a different color. One particular room was a secret room, and this represents the secret world of Petra which is hidden behind two large rocks. This secret world is coded the color clear. Besides the special color clear, the following colors appear in the system: Gold, Silver, Purple, Black, Red, Green, Blue, Brown, White, Orange, Yellow, and Pink. Each color has meaning and a rank. Just as the hour glasses could be turned, the color coding can be switched in rank. This is why in some systems there is a “Computer Operator Black”, a “Computer Operator Green”, and a “Computer Operator Purple”, etc. During the programming a black box with needles and wires which attach to the body for electroshock is used. While electro shocking the victim, colored scarfs coming out of a box are shown to the child.

The scarfs would help form the imagery needed to build colored ribbons internally. Alters would be created using the Tall Book of Make Believe story of the Pancake people. Using this as a base or foundation, the alters would then be dehumanized one step further into thinking they were ribbons--such as ticker tape, which could transmit information from one computer to another area of the mind. The Ribbons had the ability to travel between the different levels and to transmit messages through the System, especially to the computers. It is believed they could do this because they were spirit. When a System is accessed by a programmer, one procedure is to obtain a Ribbon alter and then inform the Ribbon what he wants. The ribbons transmit messages to the internal computers. The ribbons on older systems use morse code. Who are the Ribbons? The Ribbons are the beginning of the Luciferian alter-like demons and alters. They are primarily the message bearers from the computers to the different computers, levels and alters. The Ribbons might have angelic names (Michael, Gabriel, etc.). The word angel means messenger. The ribbons serve a very similar fun-ction. They transmit ticker tape with morse code messages. They are at work most of the time for a System.

A sample cover story for what they guard--which is the main computer with the gems and the core, is that the ribbons guard the System’s “Garden of Eden”. Some more of the cover story that may be given is this: Ribbons were supposedly formed out of the dust of the ground and were placed in the Garden of Eden to create every pleasant tree. (See Genesis 1.) The ribbons relate to the Tree of Life. But to eat of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil will cause death. The name of the first river of four in the garden is Pashon. Out of the first river come four heads. The River Pashon has gold, ballium, onyx, rubies, diamonds and precious stones. These gems are the programs the dwarfs mine. If the System has charismatic programming, the alters will have porcelain face programming. In this case each ribbon’s color will match the color of the stones in the masks--that is yellow, white, blue, green, purple, red and black. The colors of the ribbons correlate or match the colors of the Dollhouse rooms. What do ribbons do? The Ribbons serve the programmers and the computers, who in turn serve the evil master Spirits. Things that the Ribbons do for the computers have been identified as follows:

a. The Ribbons eat from the system’s internal “Tree of Good and Evil”.,

b. Ribbon programming consists of several things--where they reside, who they are and what they are to protect.,

c. Ribbons must protect the computers in order to protect their own life. The Ribbons will be programmed to believe that reversing the computer will reverse the Ribbons’ life. The ribbons themselves operate with mechanical hearts (not human hearts). The cover stories may include the following: All Ribbons are hid behind a little girl, who is a front for them & who tells the creation story. The little girl will tell the creation story which included the Ribbons. Behind her runs a silver cord. The silver cord has to do with heart programming. The silver cord has 3 strands that cannot be broken as per ECL 4:12. This silver cord goes off if the Ribbons are touched. Ribbons are set up so that suicide programming is triggered if they are cut. Actually, french braiding conceals a 4th strand.

In review as stated, during the programming, a box with colored scarfs was shown the child while severe electro-shock was given to the body. A colored scarf represents a ribbon which runs a message from a colored room to a similar colored alter. In a System which is structured into families and cities and worlds and sections, these “geographically different” structures in the mind of the victim can be connected via the color coding. In other words, the alters are structured into a 3-D cube structure. Then a fourth dimension (the color coding) is added to tie in all of the three dimensions.

A central computer was placed in at the bottom of the mind. Using various techniques the victim is brought to the deepest altered state possible, and a computer is built into the mind via hypnosis and alters. This can be done by freezing the entire body and just keeping the head active. Or it can be done by bringing the body to a comatose state where the heart is beating faintly. This step can only be done under the strictest medical supervision. The memory storage area for the computers include the Emerald City Library (staying with the Wizard of Oz theme) which contains alters who only fun-ction is to memorize & retain with photographic memories, pages and pages of information. The layout with codes of the entire system can be stored in a storage bank, so the programmer could access this area if his own records were lost. The libraries contain the historical genealogies of satanic iniquity from early ancient times to present. This ancient occult information has been reported by at least half a dozen Illuminati slaves as being retained internally by demons.

In line with what is being done by the Illuminati around the world with their network of computers--the computers have access codes similar to 666 666 666, and back out and close down codes similar to 999 999 999. These are the codes that the UNIX universal system uses, and the Monarch slaves are being created with codes that interface with the UNIX system for computers. (On some systems if the computer is shutdown it will request an input code of 666fff666fff666fff666...This can then be reversed F6F6F6F6F6F6F6F6F6F6.) The UNIX system is being used to allow the New World Order’s big BEAST computers to communicate with any known computer, including the minds of their Monarch mind-controlled slaves. In the 1960s, the U.S. Department of Defense began linking computers together into a superhighway now developed into the Internet.

Hundreds of thousands of computers around the world are tied in. Like buildings in a city, each computer has its own unique address. Most of these addresses are registered at the Network Information Center in Menlo Park, CA. Individuals can also be registered at the NIC too. The U.S. Military links into the system with their Arpanet and Milnet networks, which tie together such divergent things as MIT computers, West Point computers, NORAD computers, Alr Force Systems Command Space Division computers at El Segundo, CA and U.S. Army DARCOM at Seckenheim, Ger. (to name a few). These are all being tied together to form one vast electronic brain. There are nine secret BEAST computers of the New World Order, at the time this was written. “Big Bertha” is the nickname of the BEAST computer located at the secret military installation called Dreamland at the secret Groom Lake, NV test site facility. Papoose Lake is referred to as S-4.

The other super-secret facilities in the area are named S-2, S-6, and S-66. This area has become the Illuminati’s prime programming facility for turning out Monarch slaves, and the Monarch slaves which are turned out from this area have turned out to be the worst basket cases. In other words, the programming is very severe which is carried out in this area. This area has also been used for the space program, for the U-2 & SR-71, for the CIA’s A-12 spy plane, for the Stealth fighters (Lockheed F-1 17A Attack plane) and bombers, the Aurora, and for the U.S. government’s “Above Top Secret” flying saucers. The Big Bertha computer (named after the Illuminati Mother-of-Darkness Bertha Krupp) can be talked to in half a dozen languages and will answer a person back in the language they speak.

On a daily basis, airplanes fly into the Groom Lake facility. The callname of flights bringing workers and people go by the call name “Janet”. About 12 Janet flights come into the facility everyday. These flights are usually Boeing 737s and arrive from places like a secure terminal run by EG&G at McCarran Alrport in Las Vegas and from the military’s Palmdale, CA facility. These 737s are unmarked except for a red stripe running down the fuselage. Large military C-130 arrive with cargo, and Illuminati dignitaries arrive in smaller twin-engine craft. Victims for the programming are brought in via planes, & other routes.

One of the BEAST computers occupies three floors of the headquarters of the European Economic Community building in Brussels, not far from the important Illuminati Mother-of-Darkness worldwide headquarters castle near the France-Belgium border near Muno, Belgium. Another BEAST computer is in Luxembourg. In observing the operations of the Illuminati, it has been seen that telephone area codes are used as part of a mind-controlled slave’s code. We do not understand everything about their codes, but it does tie in with other things that are happening. Every person in the world has been assigned an 18 digit tracking number, which consists of 3 groups of 6 numbers. The first 3 numbers assigned in the BEAST computer to everyone are 666. The next is one’s national code. The U.S. national code is 110. Then the next 3 numbers are you telephone area code, and then finally your 9 digit Social Security number. The code then is 666 + Nation code + Tel. area code + social security no. = BEAST I.D. no. for an individual. According to Dwight Kinman’s book The World’s Last Dictator, 2nd ed., (Woodburn, OR: Solid Rock Books, p. 256) VISA has already begun issuing VISA cards using the BEAST 18 digit number.

When an American makes a bank transaction on an autoteller within a matter of seconds, the BEAST has been informed of the activity. These computers use UNIX. The particular programs for the economic transactions just described are a worldwide computer network called SWIFT (Society For Worldwide Interbank Financial Transactions). The SWIFT works off of the UNIX system and can communicate with any computer. It was developed by AT&T and uses C language. (Bear in mind that there are dialects of UNIX, such as the standard AT&T UNIX and for instance Berkeley UNIX. The UNIX system uses both timesharing and multitasking. The mind of a Monarch slave also does both multitasking and time sharing. One of the nice UNIX features, is “protected memory”, which is also part of the Monarch programming. A kernal is what the UNIX programmers call a “protected person”. It is very similar to the internal “person” (alter) who helps the Monarch slave’s programming fun-ctions. The big item about UNIX is that it has permissions granted. This is similar to the Monarch programming. Permissions are granted to 3 types of entities. The Top Programmer or “god” as he is called, of the UNIX System receives what is called the individual permission.

The next permission is called group permission, and it is given to insiders who work with the system. The final permission type is the world, which has very limited access. The parallel between this and the Monarch programming is surprising. In some cases the programmers may have matched things on a one-to-one correspondence. The Monarch program also has a Top Programmer who is called “god” to the System. He has total control over the system. His programming permissions can not be deprogrammed out by others who might want to usurp his power. Hidden from the casual user of the UNIX system are the Daemons and Demons. The UNIX programmers decided to use the old english spelling for demon = Daemon. These are computer processes which work secretly behind the scenes and are given actual demonic names--some corresponding to actual names of historically known demons, such as Asmodeus. Asmodeus is also a demon which is placed into many Monarch slaves. In the UNIX system these demons are treated like persons in the computer’s user director. Demons in the computer system do not have to log onto the computer, but they work behind the scenes and are given the same powers that people users are given.

They are set up in the same structure as how the computer treats people. Permission in the UNIX system is granted using an 8 bit count with 0 through 7. The three kinds of permission are the read, write, and execute permissions. If no permission were granted in any way the UNIX system would indicate” “on the screen which means 000000 000 or nine 0’s. The super user called god is given the code 777 which means super user. However, the permission of 666 gives the user the power to everything the 777 permission gives, except that the 777 permission allows the god the master programmer) to execute not executable programs. The Postmaster Demon is the head demon, and his permission level in UNIX is 666. (In the Monarch Programming “Mr. Postman” is a code word used internationally.) The most important part of the BEAST system is its communication power. The Electronic Mail System of the BEAST allows it to communicate worldwide, and along with electronic mail comes levels of permission to view or work with the electronic mail. The super user (god) is called Root. A programmer on the Beast must get permission. His program must get permission. That program that gives permission must also get permission. In other words, there are levels of permission that must be gone through.

This is similar to the Monarch program. For instance, the alters personalities which would control the body during Illuminati gatherings have very tight access permission. It is very hard to access these hierarchy personalities. Both the UNIX system (and the Monarch programming) creates “children” by “spinning”. The “child” spins off. When the “child” is finished it is “killed” in UNIX lingo. When the programmers created child processes in the computer, they were having problems with the child processes killing the parent processes. The same type of problems have had to be dealt with in the Monarch programming. The initial programmer is often the biological parent of the child, and this parent is very responsible for extreme tortures being applied to the child who is being programmed--not to mention all of the expendible children, who are killed in front of the child to highlight the reality of the trauma. The natural reaction of the child being created is to hate the programmer. Naturally, the Monarch programming had to overcome that natural tendency, which it does very successfully. The UNIX system uses an internal clock within its computer system. The UNIX clock is called CRON. CRON checks files to see if the programmer has put in any files to run.

The UNIX system uses data bus lines, which are like the Monarch programming ribbons, which go through the system. These ribbons or data bus lines take information and commands from the computers to other computers. Within the UNIX system, insiders have revealed that the Daemon (Demon) processes of all the UNIX systems have a security flaw. That flaw is that the Postmaster Daemon has access to them in spite of who the god is of that particular UNIX computer system. So while owners, who purchase UNIX systems think that they have exclusive control over their system, an external Postmaster Daemon coming from the Beast could use its permission levels to over ride the power of the local owner of the system. The Monarch system has a similar feature, the Illuminati programmers know how to access the base or primal anchors to the programming and yank out any programming they want. All the slaves of these lesser groups such as the CIA, Church of Satan, Mafia, etc. can all be reprogrammed rather quickly to serve the Illuminati, if they are not already due to the Illuminati programmers extra knowledge on how to get into the base programming. In these many ways, the UNIX system serves both real computers and also for the internal computers of some slaves’ mind.

The slave’s system becomes a computer system. It fun-ctions as a series of computers that are connected to the master computer which is sunk into the mind at the lowest hypnotic level, which is a level often placed even below an internal “hell pit”. To access the different computers, combinations of cards were used for the codes (numbers are also used. See Chapter 4 (http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4chap.shtml).). Various parts of a Monarch system correspond to what any computer would have. A microprocessor register has 3 sections on a computer to make it fun-ctional. In Monarch Systems, you would find these 3 represented by

1. stored data in the library and alters with photographic memories,

2. an instruction section with codes, and

3. stacking mechanisms.

Linked to all this were a crystal, clock, hour glasses, a compass and an entire demonic command structure. The eye in front of the big computer will be protected by legions of spirits. The front big computer runs front quadrants and the back computer runs the deeper quadrants. The software so to speak for the Omega programming (computer) may be set up to include a stacking program called the Potter’s Wheel. The Potter’s Wheel is a misuse of the Bible, and is a type of programming that the Charismatic/pentecostal movement carries out. The Mormons and the Catholics have their own distinctive “software” programs. An initial stacking mechanism would work by telling alters to “Stand in Order according to rank and serial no.” Another code along with a hand signal would place the Gatekeeper alters up on the Potter’s wheel for their “creator” to work on them. A group of alters could be taught to go up on their Potter’s wheel by seeing a pattern of dominoes. It is whatever the programmer decides.

The dominoes were used for coding, but they also had the programming feature of being able to tie alters together so that if the System is tampered with out of sequence, a domino effect would take place. This domino effect is for one program to set off another program to set off another program. Soon the Monarch slave’s mind is trying to deal with dozens of suicide programs running simultaneously, along with perhaps other programs such as scrambling programs. For instance, one story line used is the mice run up and down and open up new levels of programming and are tied to the pendulum/clock mechanism. The mice can activate the hour glass, and a gold-winged green skirted fairy Whisper balances the hour glass on her wings. If the slave goes toward freedom, the slave’s mind triggers programs of all kinds, and the mind ends up not knowing if it was coming or going with all the different programs which activate. A more exhaustive look at all the craziness and activity of the Omega & Gamma programs which activate to defend the Illuminati’s Mind Control are given in other chapters. The programming has been designed that if it was taken out improperly, it is to come back Seven times Seven stronger. This is also a clue that the programming is partly a demonic manifestation, cf. MT 12:43-45 et al.

At the center of the System are the mechanisms that control it, such as the Master Computer, the All-Seeing Eye, the Compass, the Master Clock, and the Quadrants that tie in together. The System may have 3 hourglasses spinning on axes. These hour glasses can also be called matrixes, which are on your standard 3 axes, a X axis, a Y axis & a Z axis. The worlds are various sections of these matrixes.

There are backup worlds & mirror image worlds. Occasionally, there will be a double system. Some of the more important alter System are even far more complex than a double System or a double Double System. Each alter is split so that every alter has another alter created from it. Then there are demonic doubles--demonic mirror images in the System. The double images shown in the picture are very real when describing our System. Some therapists have noticed “Satanic Guardian Angels” which talk to their patients. They do not know what to make of these. Some classify them as hallucinations, because they do not have any room in their belief system for demonology. These are the demons that do control the multiple’s mind. Thor, with his hugh hammer is a painful demon. Thor’s image is made of cast iron & carried an iron mallet. Thor is a black strong figure. When his hammer strikes, the slave gets split brain headaches. Programmers can use the story of the Giant with the Hammer in the Ozma of Oz book (pp. 141-155) to give the imagery when programming. A special series of sweeping motions with both hands will relieve the split brain programming, but some alters can only tolerate these hand signals being done by the master. By the way, Thor is an important protector in Satanic/occult beliefs, & the religion of Thor now has equal stature/popularity in Germany as the Lutheran church.

The programs are put into a System and given codes. These programs use Greek, Hebrew and Druidic letters (or other esoteric languages) in their activation codes. Actually, these alphabets also are the way these people numbered with, and the Greek, Hebrew & Druid letters were used as numbers. These programs could be called Utility Programs, because they fun-ction much like the utility programs of a computer. Along with all the programming comes cover programming. Generally, front stories cover almost everything in a System. Dominos have been used in Monarch programming as the basis for what is called a “Mother Board” in actual computers. Telephone tones key in on a slave’s computer matrix. At times, telephone tones in everyday life will make slaves accidently wacky. All computers run off of base 2--which uses the numbers 0, and 1. 0 and 1 can be represented as on and off. In the programming, they were represented by “He Loves Me”, “He Loves Me Not.” The Programmers, especially Dr. Mengele, enjoyed taking a daisy and pulling its petals off one at a time. First petal, “I love you”. Second Petal, “I love you not.” IF the last daisy petal was “I love you not--then the child was dramatically killed in front of other children to be programmed. The Illuminati’s method of death--skinning alive--has been developed into a fine art, for both programming and ceremonies. A drawing of this skinning procedure by a witness is on pg. 338. The daisy game, which was scary for a child, heightened the victim’s attention. Matrixes were built upon this deadly game.

How did it feel to be programmed with Mengele’s “I love you, I love you not” programming? A victim recalls, “The child was placed in a cage exposed and naked. The low voltage wires were rigged to the metal of the cage. The child experienced a continual erratic or sporadic prolonged voltage of shock until the heart would pulsate and the anxiety level of the child became out of control. “Then the Dr. would enter the scene with his sneering taunting smile while holding a daisy in his hands. The sporadic voltage would continue to flow through the child’s body. As the shock continued, the Dr. stood before the child pulling petals off the daisy. His only communication was voiced in these words, “LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU NOT, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU NOT,” while pulling off the daisy petals. This action would drive the child crazy because the child knows full well if that last petal is pulled off it meant death. The child that is not loved is skinned alive before the other children. “...we can now begin to understand that the expendable children were in other cages placed all around us for the eye to see. They went through the same process as we watched.

When the last petal of the daisy was pulled from the flower they were killed. Then the terror of what we had just experienced through the seeing and hearing, let us know we were next, but when? By the time the doctor got to “He loves me not” some children no longer knew fear. Their ashes were taken from the crematorium and used in the garden for fertilizer, as a reminder to all what happens to unloved children. “In the clinical room, the lights were used to program the day’s events. The bright light continually flaashed starting with 7 lights, then six dots, then five dots, then four dots, then three, then two dots, then 1 dot. In the blindness of the lights, we could hear the doctor’s voice, “LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU NOT.” over and over again. A child could have a false trust when the lights flaashed 7 dots. By the time one dot was flaashing, the child’s terror had once again risen. The doctor never pulled the last petal off for us, but we can’t forget how he teased us. He smiled and walked away, ‘NO, I LOVE YOU.’ and walked away.” If we use L=I love you and N=I love you not, we can build the following matrix for the internal computer:












2 3 4 5 6 1
3 4 5 6 1 2
4 5 6 1 2 3
5 6 1 2 3 4
6 1 2 3 4 5

This type of configuration can even be tied to color programming, and to dominoes, where the numbers are represented as the dots on a domino. By making numbers into dots--the numbers can be represented by lights in the same patterns of black domino dots. This means that dominos can be used to program a child, and who would suspect anything about dominoes?

Another thing that lends itself well to use as a programming code are a deck of cards. Many slaves have this. It can be tied in with the Alice In Wonderland story. When cards are used, a section (also called a world or city) of alters will be given its own computer. To access that computer, a code consisting of several things including 2 cards can be used. In review of what Chapter 4 said about codes, often double codes are employed--what is meant by that is that suppose we have 13 important alters in a section. They will designate each of these “A” alters. Then they number them each 1 through 13. But then they will double code them so that as we count up, we also count down.

Then they attach a generic level number to them, say 2,000. So putting this together we have Emerald Green 2001-13a for our first alter, then next is Emerald Green 2002-12a, the next is Emerald Green 2003-11a, and so on. Then the magical name of the alter or the Tribal name of the alter can be attached onto this to complete an access code. While it seems perhaps complex at first, all an alter is remembering is a color, a common section no. and their rank no. and their file letter, and their magical name. (The name to pull them up--will not be their name for public use.) Alice In Wonderland, the Wizard of Oz and the Tall Book of Make Believe played a fundamental role as “software” in a System. The Wizard of Oz stories are often used to show how & what structures to put in the small victim’s internal world. The stories even teach HOW to create an internal world and its parts. Some of the T.V. shows & movies, which served as Monarch programming scr-ipts (i.e. the software) include:



Bobby’s World Cartoons (deliberate triggers)

Dameon/Omen movies

Disney movies (all of them, some with deliberate triggers)

Duck Tails Cartoon (deliberate triggers)

ET (used in alien programming)

Fantasy Island (deliberate triggers)

Ghost Busters (used for “who ya’ gonna call” theme)

Love Boat (used for mind control of cruise prostitutes)

My Fair Lady (finishing school for slaves, such as Youngstown, OH)

Star Wars

Steven King Horror Movies

Tiny Toons Cartoons of Steven Speilberg (deliberate triggers)

Wizard of Oz movies

Some of the books which were used as programming scr-ipts, which haven’t been mentioned yet, are the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Egyptian Book of the Dead (satanic rituals follow closely the rituals of the Egyptian Book of the Dead), Steven King novels, & Wilbur Smith’s. The Mother Goose nursery rhymes were used prolifically for internal codes in slaves. Now that we have discussed the widely used “soft ware” available to the programmers, we don’t want to forget the root program, the tree which was used as a method of organizing the various programs, just like a computer’s subdirectories branch out more subdirectories. If the programming is tampered with, the slave will want to cut the tree--however, since the tree is in them, this means they will want very badly to cut their arms, especially their veins. The programming is not guarded as much as the computers. Everything guards the BEAST computer including deaf alters who have to be communicated with using a hand number code system. Such a code might resemble finger signing 1,2,3,4,5,10 = 15 & following this with a shutdown code which simply reverses the access equation. Surrounding the central All-seeing-eye will be alters & programs with insanity, fear, hopelessness, cutting, burning, aloneness, etc. Strong demonic forces are attached to these alters & programs.

They also can trigger the slave to have abusive behavior as punishment. A System is given a life force which is able to regenerate a system, the jokers who protected the programming, and you have the alpha-numeric codes, the cards, and dominoes (represented by a dice) that formed the access codes to parts of the System. The alters will often feel the heartbeat (which may be an alter) associated with the computer In the background is a Luciferian blue light. This Satanic light empowers the Joker. It along with the Joker and the internal programmers give a System the ability to regenerate itself. One can shut down internal computers which run programming to the levels of the System using the same codes that the original programmers use, but until one also takes care of the 13 Jokers & the faceless white-coated programmers who control the Omega Programming, then the back up computers can regenerate the programming & rebuild the system.

If the computers are given cards as access codes--it works in well to create Jokers who are wild cards within the system, which can imitate anything. The Jokers have a Luciferian form. Luciferian is the term that the programmers used. This means that it is spirit. Because the Jokers are Spirit, they can take any form they need to and they can do what they want to do, until they are bound & cast out with the rest of their hierarchy of demons. The Jokers will pop up when a victim tries to study the codes & programming that direct that victim’s life. Around this cult core are the jewels (which are the programs the dwarfs mine). Remember the story of Snow White and the Seven dwarfs? Also swirling around Silence are ribbons which we will discuss later.

The trees bud at certain times. This is one way the imagery of the tree to connect to the time that rituals are to happen. If the tree is barren of leaves (no programs--i.e. deprogrammed), then the system is to grow more leaves.


The programmers build chains of command within the groups of alters that they create. They credit themselves with bringing order out of chaos. When a system of multiple personalities thinks of rebelling, they are in the similar situation as a colony wanting freedom from its mother country. Can we govern ourselves, and what governing structures can we keep--since the structure itself is colonial? Can the mind work together to help itself? The concerns are legitimate questions. And yes, the multiple’s mind can fun-ction outside of the control of the programmer’s hierarchial arrangement, but not without alters taking on different job assignments. In the slave’s hierarchal chain of command, adult alters are assigned to insure that child alters don’t get out, unless the abusers want a child alter out. Likewise, commander alters are needed to keep the switching smooth, and to keep things orderly. Subordinate alters are taught to submit to their king, or governor, or queen alter. Immense power and indoctrination is given to the key cult alters ruling a system. The internal hierarchial arrangement means that the host alter coming into therapy (often a Christian) may not be as completely open as therapists think. They must play an internal game of going toward health while not pushing the buttons of deeper more powerful alters. A lot of internal politics may go on. A front alter may promise a deeper alter secrecy in order to consult with it.

This makes for all kinds of triangulation and manipulation within the alter system itself. The entire hierarchy of alters has a lot invested in protecting the core from trauma, which was why the core was split in the beginning. Traditional therapy goes after the core & the multiplicity that protects it, thus insuring resistence from the entire hierarchy incl. front alters, who in MPD systems seeking help are often close to the core. The core self is best not directly pursued by the therapist, but gently encouraged on its own to reconnect.

Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler

02-05-2005, 04:52 PM
I don't have a link for this one either. But this is a real scary prospect, I think.

Project Monarch

Ron Patton


Nazi Mind Control

Amidst the subtle cerebral circumvention of the gullible populace, through a multitude of manipulated mediums, lies one of the most diabolical atrocities perpetrated upon a segment of the human race; a form of systematic mind control which has permeated every aspect of society for almost fifty years. To objectively ascertain the following, one may need to re-examine preconceived ideologies relating to the dualistic nature of mankind.

Resolving the philosophical question of whether we are inherently good or inherently evil is tantamount in shaping our perception of reality; specifically, the spiritual variable within the equation of life.

This exposition is substantiated by declassified U.S. government documents, individuals formerly connected to the U.S. intelligence communities, historical writings, researchers knowledgeable in mind control, publications from mental health practitioners, and interviews taken from survivors unwittingly subjected to a highly complex form of trauma-based mind control known as MONARCH programming.

A word of caution for survivors of intensively systematic mind control and/or some form of ritualized abuse: There are numerous "triggers" in this article. It is therefore recommended not to read it unless appropriate support systems are in place or if you have a thoroughly reintegrated personality.

A Brief History of Control

The Mystery Religions of ancient Egypt, Greece, India and Babylon helped lay the foundation for occultism, meaning "hidden knowledge." One of the earliest writings giving reference to occultism is the Egyptian Book of the Dead, a compilation of rituals explicitly describing methods of torture and intimidation (to create trauma), the use of potions (drugs) and the casting of spells (hypnotism), ultimately resulting in the total enslavement of the initiate.[1] These have been the main ingredients for a part of occultism known as Satanism, throughout the ages.

During the 13th Century, the Roman Catholic church increased and solidified its dominion throughout Europe with the infamous Inquisition. Satanism survived this period of persecution, deeply entrenching itself under the veil of various esoteric groups.

In 1776, a Bavarian Jesuit by the name of Adam Weishaupt was commissioned by the House of Rothschild to centralize the power base of the Mystery Religions into what is commonly known as the Illuminati, meaning "Enlightened Ones." This was an amalgamation of powerful occultic bloodlines, elite secret societies and influential Masonic fraternities, with the desire to construct the framework for a "New World Order." The outward goal of this Utopia was to bring forth universal happiness to the human race. However, their underlying intention was to gradually increase control over the masses, thus becoming masters of the planet.

The Anglo Alliance

By the 19th century, Great Britain and Germany were recognized as the primary geographic areas of Illuminati control. It then should be of little surprise to know the first work in Behavioral Science research was established in England in 1882, while much of the early medical and psychiatric techniques involved in mind control were pioneered at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany.

The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations was set up in London in 1921 to study the "breaking point" of humans. Kurt Lewin, a German psychologist, became the director of the Tavistock Institute in 1932, about the same time Nazi Germany was increasing its research into neuropsychology, parapsychology and multi-generational occultism. Interestingly, a progressive exchange of scientific ideas was taking place between England and Germany, most notably in the field of eugenics: the movement devoted to "improving" the human species through the control of hereditary factors in mating. The nefariously enigmatic union between the two countries was bonded, partly through the Order of the Golden Dawn, a secret society which consisted of many high ranking officials in the Nazi party and British aristocracy.

Top SS Nazi officer Heinrich Himmler, was in charge of a scientific project called Lebersborn, which included selective breeding and adoption of children, a peculiarly large number of twins among them.[2] The purpose of the program was to create a super-race (Aryans) who would have total allegiance to the cause of the Third Reich (New World Order). Much of the preliminary experimentation concerning genetic engineering and behavior modification was conducted by Dr. Josef Mengele at Auschwitz, where he coldly analyzed the effects of trauma-bonding, eye-coloring and "twinning" upon his victims. Beside the insidious surgical experimentation performed at the concentration camp, some of the children were subjected to massive amounts of electroshock. Sadly, many of them did not survive the brutality.

Concurrently, "brain-washing" was carried out on inmates at Dachau, who were placed under hypnosis and given the hallucinogenic drug mescaline. During the war, parallel behavioral research was led by Dr. George Estabrooks of Colgate University. His involvement with the Army, CID, FBI and other agencies remains shrouded in secrecy. However, Estabrooks would occasionally "slip" and discuss his work involving the creation of hypno-programmed couriers and hypnotically-induced split personalities.[3]

After WWII, the U.S. Department of Defense secretly imported many of the top German Nazi and Italian Fascist scientists and spies into the United States via South America and the Vatican. The code name for this operation was Project PAPERCLIP.[4] One of the more prominent finds for the U.S. was German General Reinhard Gehlen. Hitler's Chief of Intelligence against Russia. Upon arriving in Washington D.C. in 1945, Gehlen met extensively with President Truman, General William "Wild Bill" Donovan, Director of the Office of Strategic Services(OSS) and Allen Dulles, who would later become the stalwart head of the CIA. The objective of their brain-storming sessions was to reorganize the nominal American intelligence operation, transforming it into a highly-efficient covert organization. The culmination of their efforts produced the Central Intelligence Group in 1946, renamed the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in 1947.

Reinhard Gehlen also had profound influence in helping to create the National Security Council, from which the National Security Act of 1947 was derived. This particular piece of legislation was implemented to protect an unconscionable number of illegal government activities, including clandestine mind control programs.

The Evolution of Project MKULTRA

With the CIA and National Security Council firmly established, the first in a series of covert brain-washing programs was initiated by the Navy in the fall of 1947. Project CHATTER was developed in response to the Soviet's "successes" through the use of "truth drugs." This rationale, however was simply a cover story if the program were to be exposed. The research focused on the identification and testing of such drugs for use in interrogations and the recruitment of agents.[5] The project was officially terminated in 1953.

The CIA decided to expand their efforts in the area of behavior modification, with the advent of Project BLUEBIRD, approved by director Allen Dulles in 1950. Its objectives were to; (1) discover a means of conditioning personnel to prevent unauthorized extraction of information from them by known means, (2) investigate the possibility of control of an individual by application of special interrogation techniques, (3) investigate memory enhancement and (4) establish defensive means for preventing hostile control of agency personnel. In August 1951, Project BLUE BIRD was renamed Project ARTICHOKE, which evaluated offensive uses of interrogation techniques, including hypnosis and drugs The program ceased in 1956. Three years prior to the halt of Project ARTICHOKE, Project MKULTRA came into existence on April 13, 1953 along the lines proposed by Richard Helms, Deputy Director of Central Intelligence (DDCI) with the rationale of establishing a "special funding mechanism of extreme sensitivity."[6]

The hypothetical etymology of "MK" may possibly stand for "Mind Kontrolle." The obvious translation of the German word "Kontrolle" into English is "control."[7] A host of German doctors, procured from the post war Nazi talent pool, were an invaluable asset toward the development of MKULTRA. The correlation between the concentration camp experiments and the numerous sub-projects of MKULTRA are clearly evident. The various avenues used to control human behavior under MKULTRA included radiation, electroshock, psychology, psychiatry, sociology, anthropology, graphology, harassment substances and paramilitary devices and materials "LSD" being the most widely dispensed "material". A special procedure, designated MKDELTA, was established to govern the use of MKULTRA abroad. MKULTRA/DELTA materials were used for harassment, discrediting or disabling purposes.[8]

Of the 149 subprojects under the umbrella of MKULTRA having been identified, Project MONARCH, officially begun by the U.S. Army in the early 1960's (although unofficially implemented much earlier) appears to be the most prominent and is still classified as TOP SECRET for "National Security" reasons.[9] MONARCH may have ulminated from MKSEARCH subprojects, such as operation SPELLBINDER, which was set up to create "sleeper'' assassins (i e. "Manchurian candidates") who could be activated upon receiving a key word or phrase while in a post-hypnotic trance. Operation OFTEN, a study which attempted to harness the power of occultic forces was possibly one of several cover programs to hide the insidious reality of Project MONARCH.

Definition and Descr-iption

The name MONARCH is not necessarily defined within the context of royal nobility, but rather refers to the monarch butterfly. When a person is undergoing trauma induced by electroshock, a feeling of light-headedness is evidenced; as if one is floating or fluttering like a butterfly. There is also a symbolic representation pertaining to the transformation or metamorphosis of this beautiful insect: from a caterpillar to a cocoon (dormancy, inactivity ), to a butterfly (new creation) which will return to its point of origin. Such is the migratory pattern that makes this species unique.

Occultic symbolism may give additional insight into the true meaning Psyche is the word for both "soul" and "butterfly" coming from the belief that human souls become butterflies while searching for a new reincarnation. [10]

Some ancient mystical groups, such as the Gnostics, saw the butterfly as a symbol of corrupt flesh. The "Angel of Death" (remember Mengele?) in Gnostic art works was portrayed crushing the butterfly.[11] A marionette is a puppet that is attached to strings and is controlled by the puppet master, hence MONARCH programming is also referred to as the "Marionette Syndrome." "Imperial Conditioning" is another term used, while some mental health therapists know it as "Conditioned Stimulus Response Sequences."

Project MONARCH could be best described as a form of structured dissociation and occultic integration, in order to compartmentalize the mind into multiple personalities within a systematic framework. During this process, a Satanic ritual, usually including Cabalistic mysticism, is performed with the purpose of attaching a particular demon or group of demons to the corresponding alter(s). Of course, most skeptics would view this as simply a means to enhance trauma within the victim. negating any irrational belief that demonic possession actually occurs.

Alters and Triggers

Another way of examining this convoluted victimization of body and soul is by looking at it as a complex computer program: A file (alter) is created through trauma, repetition and reinforcement. In order to activate (trigger) the file, a specific access code or password (cue or command) is required. The victim/survivor is called a "slave" by the programmer/handler, who in turn is perceived as "master" or "god." About 75% are female, since they possess a higher tolerance for pain and tend to dissociate easier than males. Subjects are used mainly for cover operations, prostitution and pornography; involvement in the entertainment industry is notable.

A former military officer connected to the DIA, told this writer, "In the 'big picture' these people [MONARCH victims] are in all walks of life, from the bum on the street to the white-collar guy". In corroboration, a retired CIA agent vaguely discussed the use of such personnel to be used as "plants" or "chameleons" for the purpose of infiltrating a designated group, gathering information and/or injecting an ulterior agenda. There are an inordinate amount of alters in the victim/survivor with numerous back-up programs, mirrors and shadows. A division of light-side (good) and dark-side (bad) alters are interwoven in the mind and rotate on an axis.

One of the main internal structures, (of which there are many) within the system is shaped like a double-helix, consisting of seven levels. Each system has an internal programmer which oversees the "gatekeeper" (demons?) who grant or deny entry into the different rooms. A few of the internal images predominately seen by victims/survivors are trees, the Cabalistic "Tree of Life," with adjoining root systems, infinity loops, ancient symbols and letters, spider webs, mirrors or glass shattering, masks, castles, mazes, demons/monsters/aliens, sea shells, butterflies, snakes, ribbons, bows, flowers, hour glasses, clocks, robots, chain-of-command diagrams and/or schematics of computer circuitry boards.

Bloodlines and Twinning

A majority of the victims/survivors come from multi-generational Satanic families (bloodlines) and are ostensibly programmed "to fill their destiny as the chosen ones or chosen generations"(a term coined by Mengele at Auschwitz). Some are adopted out to families of similar origin. Others used in this neurological nightmare are deemed as the "expendable ones" (non-bloodliners), usually coming from orphanages, foster care homes, or incestuous families with a long history of pedophilia. There also appears to be a pattern of family members affiliated with government or military intelligence agencies.

Many of the abused come from families who use Catholicism, Mormonism, or charismatic Christianity as a "front" for their abominable activities (though members of other religious groups are also involved.) Victims/survivors generally respond more readily to a rigid religious (dogmatic, legalistic) hierarchical structure because it parallels their base programming. Authority usually goes unchallenged, as their will has been usurped through subjective and command-oriented conditioning.

Physical identification characteristics on victims/survivors often include multiple electrical prod scars and/or resultant moles on their skin. A few may have had various parts of their bodies mutilated by knives, branding irons, or needles, Butterfly or occult tattoos are also common. Generally, bloodliners are less likely to have the subsequent markings, as their skin is to "remain pure and unblemished."

The ultimate purpose of the sophisticated manipulation of these individuals may sound unrealistic, depending upon our interpretive understanding of the physical and spiritual realms. The deepest and darkest alters within bloodliners are purported to be dormant until the "Anti-Christ~' is revealed. These "New World Order" alters supposedly contain call-back orders and instructions to train and/or initiate a large influx of people (possibly clones or "soulless ones"), thereby stimulating social control programs into the new millennium.

Non-biological "twinning" is yet another bizarre feature observed within MONARCH programming. For instance, two young non related children would be ceremoniously initiated in a magical "soul-bonding" ritual so they might be "inseparably paired for eternity" (possibly another Mengele connection?). They essentially share two halves of the programmed information, making them interdependent upon one another. Paranormal phenomenon such as astral projection, telepathy, ESP, etc. appear to be more pronounced between those who have undergone this process.

ALPHA. Regarded as "general" or regular programming within the base control personality; characterized by extremely pronounced memory retention, along with substantially increased physical strength and visual acuity. Alpha programming is accomplished through deliberately subdividing the victims personality which, in essence, causes a left brain-right brain division, allowing for a programmed union of L and R through neuron pathway stimulation.

BETA. Referred to as "sexual" programming. This programming eliminates all learned moral convictions and stimulates the primitive sexual instinct, devoid of inhibitions. "cat" alters may come out at this level.

DELTA. This is known as "killer" programming, originally developed for training special agents or elite soldiers (i.e. Delta Force, First Earth Battalion, Mossad, etc.) in covert operations. Optimal adrenal output and controlled aggression is evident. Subjects are devoid of fear; very systematic in carrying out their assignment. Self-destruct or suicide instructions are layered in at this level.

THETA considered to the "psychic" programming. Bloodliners (those coming from multi-generational Satanic families) were determined to exhibit a greater propensity for having telepathic abilities than did non-bloodliners. Due to its evident limitations, however, various forms of electronic mind control systems were developed and introduced, namely, bio-medical human telemetry devices (brain implants), directed-energy lasers using microwaves and/or electromagnetics. It is reported these are used in conjunction with highly-advanced computers and sophisticated satellite tracking systems.

OMEGA. A "self-destruct" form of programming, also known as "Code Green." The corresponding behaviors include suicidal tendencies and/or self-mutilation. This program is generally activated when the victim/survivor begins therapy or interrogation and too much memory is being recovered.

GAMMA. Another form of system protection is through "deception" programming, which elicits misinformation and misdirection. This level is intertwined with demonology and tends to regenerate itself at a later time if inappropriately deactivated.

Method and Components

The initial process begins with creating dissociation within the subject, usually occurring from the time of birth to about six years. This is primarily achieved through the use of electroshock (ECT) and is at times performed even when the child is in the mother's womb. Due to the severe trauma induced through ECT, sexual abuse and other methods, the mind splits off into alternate personalities from the core. Formerly referred to as Multiple Personality Disorder, it is presently recognized as Dissociative Identity Disorder and is the basis for MONARCH programming. Further conditioning of the victim's mind is enhanced through hypnotism, double-bind coercion, pleasure-pain reversals, food, water, sleep and sensory deprivation, along with various drugs which alter certain cerebral fun-ctions.

The next stage is to embed and compress detailed commands or messages within the specified alter. This is achieved through the use of hi-tech headsets, in conjunction with computer-driven generators which emit inaudible sound waves or harmonics that affect the RNA covering of neuron pathways to the subconscious and unconscious mind. "Virtual Reality" optical devices are sometimes used simultaneously with the harmonic generators projecting pulsating colored lights, subliminals and split-screen visuals. High voltage electroshock is then used for memory dissolution.

Programming is updated periodically and reinforced through visual, auditory and written mediums. Some of the first programming themes included the Wizard of Oz and Alice and Wonderland, both heavily saturated with occultic symbolism. Many of the recent Disney movies and cartoons are used in a two-fold manner: desensitizing the majority of the population, using subliminals and neuro-linguistic programming, and deliberately constructing specific triggers and keys for base programming of highly-impressionable MONARCH children.

A prime example of how subliminal programming works is by looking at the recent Disney cinematic sensation Pochahontas, curiously billed as their "33rd" (highest degree in Scottish Rite Freemasonry) animated movie. In the movie, Grandmother Willow is a mystical 400 year old tree who counsels the motherless Pochahontas to listen to her heart and help her realize all the answers lie within. Grandmother Willow is constantly talking in "double-speak" and using reversals" (i.e. "Sometimes the right path is not the easiest one"; the esoteric derivative being: the left path [the path that leads to destruction] is the easiest one.

In Illuminati Structured MPD Systems, the willow tree represents the occultic powers of Druidism. The intrinsic imagery of the tree's branches, leaves and root systems are very significant, as some of the dark spiritual proper ties associated with the Willow Tree Programming are: (I) The branches are used to whip victims in rituals for "cleansing" purposes, (2) A willow tree can endure severe weather disturbances (i.e. storms) and is known for it's pliability or flexibility. Victims/Survivors of the programming describe the willow's branches wrapping around them, with no hope of escape, (3) The deep root system of the willow tree makes the victim/survivor feel as if they are falling deeper and deeper into an abyss while in a hypnotic trance.

Music plays an instrumental role in programming, through combinations of variable tones, rhythms and words. Frightmeister Stephen King's numerous novels and subsequent movies, are purported by credible sources to be used for such villainous purposes. One of his latest books, Insomnia, features a picture of King with the trigger phrase "WE NEVER SLEEP," (indicative of someone with MPD/ DID) below an all-seeing eye. A partial list of other mediums used to reinforce base programming are:

Pinnochio, Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Little Mermaid, The Lion King, E. T., Star Wars, Ghost Busters, Trancers II, Batman, Bewitched, Fantasy Island, Reboot, Tiny Toons, Duck Tails, The Dead Sea Scrolls and The Tall Book of Make Believe.

A few movies which depict or portray some aspect of MONARCH programming are Hellraiser 3, Raising Cain, Labyrinth, Telefon, Johnny Mneumonic, Point of No Return, The Lawnmower Man and Closet Land.

Programmers and Places

It's difficult to figure out who the original programmer of this satanic project was, due to the substantial amount of disinformation and cross-contamination propagated by the "powers that be." The two that went by the color-coded name of Dr. Green are a Jewish doctor named Dr. Gruenbaum, who supposedly collaborated with the Nazis during WWII, and Dr. Josef Mengele, whose trademark of cold blooded and calculating brutality has not only scarred the souls of survivors from Auschwitz, but also a countless number of victims throughout the world. Mengele's direct involvement at the infamous Auschwitz concentration camp was suspiciously downplayed during the Nuremberg Trials, and consequently no intensified effort by the U.S. and it's allies was directed toward his capture.[13]

As a means to confuse serious investigators as to his whereabouts, U.S. officials would report Mengele being a non-threatening, recluse in Paraguay or Brazil, or that he was simply dead (the "Angel of Death" miraculously must have come back to life at least five different times). His unprecedented research, at the expense of thousands of lives, undoubtedly was a significant bonus to U.S. interests, Besides using the pseudonym of Dr. Green, survivors knew him as Vaterchen (daddy), Schoner Josef (beautiful Joseph), David and Fairchild. A gracefully handsome man of slight stature, Mengele would disarm people with his gentle demeanor,while at other times, he would explode into violent rages.[14] Other characteristics remembered by survivors were the cadence of his shiny black boots as he paced back and forth and his I-love-you/l-love-you-not" daisy game. When he pulled off the last daisy petal, he would maliciously torture and kill a small child in front of the other child he was programming. Distraught survivors also recalled being thrown naked into cages with monkeys, who were trained to viciously abuse them. Evidently, Mengele enjoyed reducing people to the level of animals. He also would purposely restrain his victims from crying, screaming, or showing any excessive emotion.

Dr. D. Ewen Cameron, also known as Dr. White, was the former head of the Canadian, American and World Psychiatric Associations. Because of Cameron's extensive experience and credentials, the ClA's Allen Dulles funneled millions of dollars throughout organizations like the society for the Investigation of Human Ecology, which Cameron ruthlessly presided over. Experimentations were conducted at several locations in Montreal, mostly at McGill University, St Mary's Hospital and Allan Memorial Institute.

Besides the conventional methods of psychiatric tyranny, such as electroshock drug injections and lobotomies, Cameron conceived the technique of "psychic driving," wherein unsuspecting patients were kept in a drug induced coma for several weeks and administered a regimen of electroshocks, while electronic helmets were strapped to their heads and repetitive auditory messages were transmitted at variable speeds.[15]

Many of those exploited were abused children which had been run through the Roman Catholic orphanage system.

Not surprisingly, Dr Cameron has been conveniently left out of most psychiatric journals. This may have been, in fact, largely due to Project MKULTRA being publicly exposed in 1970, through lawsuits filed by Canadian survivors and their families. The CIA and Canadian government settled out of court so as not to be required to officially admit to any wrongdoing.

A former U.S. Army Lt. Col. in the DIA's Psychological Warfare Division, Michael Aquino, is the latest in a line of alleged government-sponsored sadists. Aquino, an eccentric genius, founded the Temple of Set, an offshoot of Anton LaVey's Church of Satan. His obsession with Nazi pagan rituals and his hypnotic manipulation of people made him an ideal candidate for the position of "Master Programmer." Aquino was connected with the Presidio Army Base day care scandal, in which he was accused child molestation. Much to the dismay of the young victims' parents, all charges were dismissed. Code-named "Malcolm", Aquino developed training tapes on how to create a MONARCH slave and worked as a liaison between Government/Military Intelligence and various criminal organizations and occult groups in the distribution of MONARCH slaves.[16]

Heinrich Mueller was another important programmer who went under the code names "Dr. Blue" or "Gog." He apparently has two sons who have carried on the trade. The original "Dr. Black" was apparently Leo Wheeler, the nephew of deceased General Earle G. Wheeler, who was the commander of the Joint Chiefs of Staffs during the Vietnam War. Wheeler's protege, E. Hummel is active in the Northwest, along with W. Bowers (from the Rothschild bloodline).

Other alleged master mind manipulators, past and present, are: Dr. Sydney Gottleib, Lt. Col John Alexander, Richard Dabney Anderson (USN), Dr. James Monroe, Dr. John Lilly, Lt. Comdr. Thomas Narut, Dr William Jennings Bryan, Dr. Bernard L. Diamond, Dr. Martin T. Orne, Dr. Louis J. West, Dr Robert J. Lifton, Dr. Harris Isbel and Col. Wilson Green

In order to keep MKULTRA from being easily detected, the CLA segmented its subprojects into specialized fields of research and development at universities, prisons, private laboratories and hospitals. Of course, they were rewarded generously with government grants and miscellaneous funding.

The names and locations of some of the major institutions involved in MONARCH programming experimentation were/are: Cornell, Duke, Princeton, UCLA, University of Rochester, MIT, Georgetown University Hospital, Maimonides Medical Center, St. Elizabeth's Hospital (Washington D.C.), Bell Laboratories, Stanford Research Institute, Westinghouse Friendship Laboratories, General Electric, ARCO and Manking Research Unlimited, The "final product" was/is usually created on military installations and bases, where maximum security is required. Referred to as (re) programming centers or near-death trauma centers, the most heavily identified are:

China Lake Naval Weapons Center, The Presidio, Ft. Dietrick, Ft. Campbell, Ft. Lewis, Ft. Hood, Redstone Arsenal, Offutt AFB, Patrick AFB, McClellan AFB, MacGill AFB, Kirkland AFB, Nellis AFB, Homestead AFB, Grissom AFB, Maxwell AFB and Tinker AFB Other places recognized as major programming sites are Langley Research Center, Los Alamos National Laboratories, Tavistock Institute and areas in or by Mt. Shasta, CA, Lampe, MO and Las Vegas, NV.

Notable Names

One of the first documented cases of a MONARCH secret agent was that of the voluptuous 1940's model, Candy Jones. The book, The Control of Candy Jones, (Playboy Press) portrays her 12 years of intrigue and suspense as a spy for the CIA. Jones, whose birth name is Jessica Wilcox, apparently fit the physiological profile as to be one of the initial experiments or human guinea pigs under the government's "scientific" project, MKULTRA.

The most publicized case of MONARCH monomania has surfaced through the book TRANCE Formation of America: The True Life Story of a ClA Slave by Cathy O'Brien. On the back cover it emphatically states, "Cathy O'Brien is the only vocal and recovered survivor of the Central Intelligence Agency's MKULTRA Project Monarch mind control operation." This documented autobiography contains compelling accounts of O'Brien's years of unrelenting incest and eventual introduction into Project MONARCH by her perverted father. Along with co-author Mark PhiIlips, her rescuer and deprogrammer, Cathy covers an almost unbelievable array of conspiratorial crime: forced prostitution (white slavery) with those in the upper echelons of world politics, covert assignments as a "drug mule" and courier, and the country-western music industry's relationship with illegal CIA activities.

Paul Bonaci a courageous survivor who endured almost two decades of degradation under Project MONARCH, has disclosed strong corroborating evidence of widescale crimes and corruption from the municipal/state level all the way up to the White House.[17] He has testified about sexually-abused males selected from Boy's Town in Nebraska and taken to nearby Offut AFB, where he says they were subjected to intense MONARCH programming, directed mainly by Commander Bill Plemmons and former Lt. Col. Michael Aquino.[18] After thoroughly tormenting the young boys into mindless oblivion, they were used (along with girls) for pornography and prostitution with several of the nation's political and economic power brokers. Bonnaci recalled being transported from the Air Force base via cargo planes to McClelland AFB in California. Along with other unfortunate adolescents and teenagers, he was driven to the elite retreat, Bohemian Grove. The perpetrators took full advantage of these innocent victims, committing unthinkable perversions in order to satisfy their deviant lusts. Some victims were apparently murdered, further traumatizing already terrified and broken children.

An insuitable actress of marginal talent (now deceased), a morally-corrupt T.V. evangelist, a heralded former Green Beret officer and a popular country-western singer are a few others likely having succumbed to MONARCH madness. Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan-Sirhan, Charlie Manson, John Hinckley Jr., Mark Chapman, David Koresh, Tim McVeigh and John Salvi are some notable names of infamy, strongly suspected of being pawns who were spawned by MKULTRA.

Deprogrammers and Exposers

Dr. Corydon Hammond, a Psychologist from the University of Utah, delivered a stunning lecture entitled "Hypnosis in MPD: Ritual Abuse" at the Fourth Annual Eastern Regional Conference on Abuse and Multiple Personality, June 25, 1992 in Alexandria, Virginia. He essentially confirmed the suspicions of the attentive crowd of mental health professionals, wherein a certain percentage of their clients had undergone mind control programming in an intensively systematic manner. Hammond alluded to the Nazi connection, military and CIA mind control research, Greek letter and color programming and specifically mentioned the Monarch Project in relation to a form of operative conditioning.

Shortly after his ground breaking speech, he received death threats. Not wanting to jeopardize the safety of his family, Dr. Hammond stopped disseminating any follow-up information, until recently.

Mark Phillips, a former electronics subcontractor for the Department of Defense, was privy to some of the top secret mind control activities perpetrated by the U.S. government. His inquisitive demeanor, strong conscience and heart-felt concern for Cathy O'Brien, a "Presidential Model' under Project MONARCH, prompted him to reveal the inner-workings of this grand deception beginning about 1991. As the story goes, he helped Ms. O'Brien escape from her captors and was able to deprogram her in about a years time in Alaska. The controversial Phillips has his share of critics who are skeptical of the veracity of his claims.

New Orleans therapist Valerie Wolf introduced two of her patients before the President's Committee on Human Radiation Experiments on March 15, 1995 in Washington D.C. The astonishing testimony made by these two brave women included accounts of German doctors, torture, drugs, electroshock, hypnosis and rape, besides being exposed to an undetermined amount of radiation. Both Wolf and her patients stated they recovered the memories of this CIA program without regression or hypnosis techniques.[19] Wolf presently devotes much of her time to counseling such survivors.

A former labor attorney for Atlantic Richfield Co., David E. Rosenbaum, conducted a nine. year investigation (1983-1992) concerning allegations of physical torture and coercive conditioning of numerous employees at an ARCO plant in Monaca, PA.[20] His clients, Jerry L. Dotey and Ann White, were victims of apparent radiation exposure; but as Mr. Rosenbaum probed deeper in the subsequent interview sessions, a "Pandora's Box" was unveiled. His most astonishing conclusion was that Jerry Dotey and Ann White were likely the off-spring of Adolf Hitler, based in part on the uncanny resemblance from photos (facial features; bone structure and size were taken into consideration). Rosenbaum also states, "They both exhibit feelings and experiences that indicate they are twins." Dotey and White were allegedly subjected to torture of many kinds while under drug induced hypnosis, with each one undergoing at least three training techniques by plant physicians.

Each victim was trained to enter into a hypnotic state upon the occurrence of specific stimuli, usually involving a "cue" word or phrase and trained to "remember to forget" what transpired in the hypnotic state. They were repeatedly subjected to identical stimulus-response sequence, to produce nearly automatic reactions to the particular status.

MKULTRA veteran, Dr. Bernard Diamond, Dr. Martin Orne and Dr. Josef Mengele regularly visited the ARCO plant, according to Rosenbaum. The special conditioning of Dotey and White was intended for the artificial creation of dual German personalities. Rosenbaum, who is Jewish, has maintained a deep friendship with the two, despite the seemingly precarious circumstances.

Other renowned therapists involved in deprogramming are Cynthia Byrtus, Pamela Monday, Steve Ogilvie, Bennett Braun, Jerry Mungadze and Colin Ross. Some Christian counselors have been able to eliminate parts of the programming with limited success. Journalists who have recently expounded on the subject matter in exemplary fashion are Walter Bowart, Operation Mind Control, Jon Rappoport, U.S. Government Mind-Control Experiments on Children and Alex Constantine, Psychic Dictatorship In The USA.


The most incriminating statement to date made by a government official as to the possible existence of Project MONARCH was extracted by Anton Chaitkin, a writer for the publication, The New Federalist. When former CIA Director William Colby was asked directly, "What about monarch?" he replied angrily and ambiguously, "We stopped that between the late 1960's and the early 1970's."

Suffice to say that society, in its apparent state of cognitive dissonance, is generally in denial of the over whelming evidence of this multifarious conspiracy. Numerous victims/ survivors of Project MONARCH are in desperate need of help. However, the great majority of people are too preoccupied with themselves to show any genuine compassion toward these severely wounded individuals. Apathy has taken over the minds of the masses, who choose to exist within the comforts of this world. Reality has thus become obscured by relativism and selfishness.

Although there has been some progress in deprogramming and reintegrating therapies, a much greater problem needs to be rectified. The Holy Bible addresses this problem as the fragmentation of the soul (Ezekiel 13:20). A spiritual restoration is what is truly needed (Psalm 23:3) but can only take place by completely trusting in Jesus Christ as the way to salvation (John 3:16; I Peter 3:1http://www.lambcafe.com/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif and deliverance from demonic oppression and/or possession (Mark 16:17). The true humility of Christ and the love of God effectively counters the pride and hatred of Satan. Statistically, the road to recovery for these survivors of unimaginable depravity is a long and tedious one, but God is the ultimate healer and only within his time, through His strength and by His grace, can the captives be set free (Isaiah 61:1).

1. David L. Carrico, The Egyptian Masonic Satanic Connection, 1992
2. Walter H. Bowart, Operation Mind Control, Flatland Editions, 1994, p. 216
3. Martin Cannon, Mind Control and the American Government, Prevailing Winds Research, 1994, p. 19
4. Linda Hunt, Secret Agenda, St. Martin's Press, 1991
5. Final Report of the Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations, U.S. Senate, April 1976, p. 337
6. Ibid, p. 390
7. John Marks, The Search For The Manchurian Candidate, Times Books, 1979, pp 60-61
8. Final Report of the Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations, U.S. Senate, April 1976, p. 391 9. Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien, Project Monarch, 1993
10. Barbara G. Walker, The Woman's Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred Objects, Harper Collins, 1988
11. Marshall Cavendish, Man, Myth and Magic, 1995
12. Dr. Corydon Hammond, The Greenbaum Speech, 1992; Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien, Project Monarch Programming Definitions, 1993
13. Gerald L. Posner, Mengele: The Complete Story, McGraw-Hill, 1986
14. Lucette Matalon Lagnado, Dr. Josef Mengele and the Untold Story of the Twins of Auschwitz, Morrow, 1991
15. Gordon Thomas, Journey into Madness: The True Story of Secret CIA Mind Control and Medical Abuse, Bantam Books, 1989
16. Cathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips, Trance Formation of America, 1995
17. John DeCamp, The Franklin Cover-Up, Child Abuse, Satanism and Murder in Nebraska, AWT Inc, 1992
18. Anton Chaitkin, "Franklin Witnesses Implicate FBI and U.S. Elites in Torture and Murder of Children", The New Federalist, 1993
19. Jon Rappoport, "CIA Experiments with Mind Control on Children", Perceptions Magazine, September/October 1995, p. 56
20. David E. Rosenbaum, Esq., First Draft Overview of Investigation of the Group, 1983-1993

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Television weatherman Scott Stevens (weatherwars.info (http://www.weatherwars.info/)) believes our weather is being controlled by outside sources. Stevens said he became convinced "something was playing in the sky" after studying visible satellite imagery that showed large weather systems with anomalous "punched out" sections and square clouds (http://www.weatherwars.info/bestofsquares.htm).

He pointed out that meteorologists currently struggle to provide forecasts longer than 72 hours for intense storms, suggesting their models are not accounting for the artificial conditions caused by weather manipulation. According to Stevens, the multitude of hurricanes that struck the southeastern United States appeared to be "on a schedule." He theorized that a "scalar imprint" within the hurricane clouds may demonstrate the "hand of man in a natural process."

With so many destructive storms hitting the U.S. last year, Stevens concluded that non-American entities may be controlling the weather. The Russian military has long claimed to have made significant technological advancements in its ability to modify the world's weather, and Stevens suggested we accept them at their word. The mechanism of their weather modifying technology may involve some kind of electromagnetic force, he speculated.

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02-05-2005, 04:58 PM
Innoculations - The True
Weapons Of Mass Destruction
Causing VIDS (Vaccine Induced Diseases) An Epidemic Of Genocide
By Rebecca Carley, M.D.

1-29-5 Court Qualified Expert in VIDS and Legal Abuse Syndrome "One basic truth can be used as a foundation for a mountain of lies, and if we dig down deep enough in the mountain of lies, and bring out that truth, to set it on top of the mountain of lies; the entire mountain of lies will crumble under the weight of that one truth. And there is nothing more devastating to a structure of lies than the revelation of the truth upon which the structure of lies was built, because the shock waves of the revelation of the truth reverberate, and continue to reverberate throughout the Earth for generations to follow, awakening even those people who had no desire to be awakened to the truth." (by Delamar Duvaris as written in the preface of "Behold the Pale Horse" by William Cooper). The basic truth that served as the foundation for the mountain of lies known as vaccinations was the observation that mammals who recover from infection with microorganisms acquire natural immunity from further infections. Whenever T cells (the little packman cells which kill viruses, bacteria, and cancer cells, thus conferring cellular immunity) and B cells (antibody producing cells which confer humoral immunity) are activated by various substances foreign to the body called antigens, some of the T and B cells become memory cells. Thus, the next time the individual meets up with that same antigen, the immune system can be quickly triggered to demolish it. This is the process known as immunity. This truth gave birth to a beLIEf that if a foreign antigen was injected into an individual, that individual would then become immune to a future infection. This beLIEf, (you see the lie in the middle), was given the name, "vaccinations". What the promoters of vaccination failed to realize is that the respiratory tract of ALL mammals (since animals are just as devastated by these inoculations with disease as are humans) contain secretory IgA (an antibody which initiates the natural God given immune response) within the respiratory tract mucosa. Bypassing this mucosal aspect of the immune system by directly injecting organisms into the bloodstream leads to a corruption in the immune system itself. As a result, the pathogenic viruses or bacteria cannot be eliminated by the immune system and remain in the body, where they will further grow and/or mutate as the individual is exposed to ever more antigens and toxins in the environment which continue to assault the immune system. The mechanism by which the immune system is corrupted can best be realized when you understand that the two poles of the immune system (the cellular and humoral mechanisms) have a reciprocal relationship. Thus, when one is stimulated, the other is inhibited. Since vaccines activate the B cells to secrete antibody, the T cells are subsequently suppressed. This suppression of the cell mediated response is a key factor in the development of cancer and life threatening infections. In fact, the "prevention" of a disease via vaccination is, in reality, an inability to expel organisms due to the suppression of the cell-mediated response. Thus, rather than preventing disease; they actually prevent the disease from ever being resolved. The organisms continue circulating through the body, mutating and transforming into other organisms (as demonstrated by the work of Professor Antoine Bechamp), depending on the acidity and toxicity of the internal terrain of the body. Note that Bechamp proved that Louis Pasteur's "germ theory" of disease was incorrect due to this ability of organisms to transform and mutate based on the body's internal terrain (as Pasteur admitted on his deathbed). Thus, treatment of infection with antibiotics as well as "prevention" of disease with vaccines are both just examples of cutting off the branches of dis-ease, when the root of the cause is a toxic internal environment. However, since Pasteur's germ theory was conducive to the profits of the burgeoning pharmaceutical companies who only manage dis-ease, no mention of the work of Professor Bechamp has been made in medical school curricula. To make matters worse than the suppression of cellular immunity which occurs when vaccines are injected, adjuvants (which are substances added to vaccines to enhance the antibody response) can actually lead to serious side effects themselves. Adjuvants include oil emulsions, mineral compounds (which may contain the heavy metal aluminum), bacterial products, liposomes (which allow delayed release of substances), and squalene. The side effects of adjuvants themselves include hyperactivity of B cells leading to pathologic levels of antibody production, as well as allergic reaction to the adjuvants themselves (as demonstrated in Gulf War I soldiers injected with vaccines containing the adjuvant squalene, to which antibodies were found in many soldiers). Note that the pathologically elevated hyperactivity of antibody production caused by adjuvants also results in a distraction from the other antigens that the immune system encounters "naturally", which must be addressed to maintain health. This hyperactivity of the humoral (antibody producing) pole of the immune system is, in this author's opinion, the sole cause of all autoimmune diseases. The only thing which determines which autoimmune disease you develop is which tissues in your body are attacked by auto-antibodies. If the inside lining of the gastrointestinal tract (the mucosa) is attacked by auto-antibodies you develop leaky gut syndrome (which leads to food allergies when partially digested food particles are released into the bloodstream, are recognized as antigens foreign to the body, and elicit an antibody response against those food particles that becomes heightened every time that same food is eaten and released into the bloodstream partially digested again). Crohn's disease and colitis are also caused by auto-antibody attack on the mucosa of the GI tract itself. If the islet (insulin producing) cells of the pancreas are attacked by auto-antibodies, you develop insulin dependent (juvenile) diabetes. If the respiratory mucosa is attacked by auto-antibodies, you develop "leaky lung" syndrome where, just as with leaky gut, antigens recognized as foreign to the body which are inhaled are able to traverse the lining of the respiratory tract, causing the creation of antibodies against those antigens (usually dust, mold, pet or pollen antigens). When these substances are inhaled again, the allergic response producing constriction of the bronchioles is called asthma. If the components of the articular surface of the joints are attacked by auto-antibodies, you develop rheumatoid (or juvenile) arthritis. If the skin is attacked, you develop "leaky skin" syndrome, where contact antigens which could not otherwise traverse the skin are allowed in, leading to skin allergies to contact antigens. Additionally, depending on which level of the skin is attacked by auto-antibodies, (i.e., the epidermis or dermis), you develop eczema, psoriasis or scleroderma. If the kidney tissue is attacked by auto-antibodies, you develop one of the many types of nephritis, depending on which component of renal tissue is attacked (for example, with glomerulonephritis, the basement membrane of the glomerular apparatus within the kidney (which filters blood to form urine) is attacked by auto-antibodies, thus allowing protein to escape from the serum into the urine). If you develop auto-antibodies against thyroid gland tissue, you develop Grave's disease. If you develop auto-antibodies against the tissue of the thymus gland (which is crucial in T cell production and fun-ction), you develop myasthenia gravis. If you develop auto-antibodies against the very DNA in the nucleus of all cells, you develop systemic Lupus (thus, the potential autoimmune potential of DNA vaccines being developed now is self evident; worse yet, DNA components from these vaccines can be incorporated into your DNA, leading to actual genetic changes which could cause extinction of all (vaccinated) life on the Earth). And on, and on, and on. The brain and spinal cord can also be attacked with auto-antibodies (which this author refers to as vaccine induced encephalitis), leading to a variety of neurological diseases. The most severe of these, leading to death, are sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) and most cases of "shaken baby syndrome". If components of the myelin sheath (the insulating covering of nerve fibers which allows proper nerve conduction) or the actual neurofilaments themselves are attacked by auto-antibodies, the resultant condition is determined solely by the location of the damage done. Such neurological conditions include but are not limited to minimal brain dysfun-ction, ADD/ADHD, learning disabilities, mental retardation, criminal behavior, the spectrum of pervasive developmental disorders (including autism), multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's, Lou Gehrig's disease, Guillen Barre,, seizure disorders, etc., etc. etc. (Please note that other toxins are also sometimes involved, such as: aspartame, Lymes and mercury in cases of MS; aspartame in seizures; or pesticides in cases of Parkinson's). Thus, when detoxing to reverse these diseases, these other substances must also be detoxed to obtain a full recovery. However, the corruption of the immune system caused by the injection of vaccines is a key component in these disease states leading to immune malfun-ction, and is the reason why an autistic child may also have leaky gut or eczema, etc. Note that myelin production, for the most part, does not begin until after birth. Most myelin is apparently laid down by age 5 years and usually completed by age 10 years, judging by the level of success at various ages in reversing autistic and other neurological VIDS symptoms that this author has observed in hundreds of children by detoxing the viruses with homeopathic nosodes, and repairing the immune corruption by simultaneous administration of bovine colostrum (i.e., after 10 years of age, the ability to stop and repair auto-antibody induced damage in the myelin sheath and neurofilaments themselves is dramatically decreased). Thus, the hyperactivity of the humoral arm of the immune system in autoimmune disease is caused by adjuvants added just for that purpose. However, the autoimmunity itself (i.e., antibody against self) has several mechanisms, including the following: 1. The antigens present in the culture media itself cannot be completely filtered and separated from the organisms cultured thereon. Thus, any antibodies formed against antigens from the culture cells themselves (for example myelin basic protein from chick embryos or the 13 vaccines which now contain aborted fetal cells) can cross-react to form an autoimmune reaction against the myelin basic protein in your myelin sheath, etc. 2. Molecular mimicry is due to similarity of proteins contained in organisms and mammals. (For example, the measles virus is made up of proteins similar to myelin basic protein; thus, antibodies formed against the measles virus antigens subsequently also cause an auto-antibody attack against myelin basic protein in the myelin sheath due to cross reactivity of these antibodies). 3. intentional inclusion of antigens in vaccines to cause formation of antibodies that attack specific hormones or races (for example, experiments done on women of childbearing age in the Philippines and probably other locations where HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin, the hormone produced when women first become pregnant) placed into vaccines given these women resulted in antibodies against the HCG hormone, and subsequent spontaneous abortion thus occurred when the women became pregnant. It is also this author's hypothesis that the epidemic of vitiligo in people of color (hypo pigmentation of skin caused by auto-antibody attack on melanocytes (melanin producing cells) in skin) is also occurring due to intentional inclusion of melanin in vaccines given to people of color. In addition to the above phenomena which lead to simultaneous depression of cellular immune fun-ction and hyperactivity of humoral immune fun-ction, vaccines also contain other toxic substances which can cause serious side effects themselves. The following ingredients are actually listed on the CDC website with this introductory statement: "Many things in today's world, including food and medicines, have chemicals added to them to prevent the growth of germs and reduce spoilage." Translation: you,re already toxic, so what's the big deal with adding more poison? This author's answer to that question is that any immunotoxin can end up being the "straw that breaks the immune system's back" in that individual, leading to dis-ease. This is where genetics is key; i.e., not that what disease you develop is actually caused by some "gene" in most cases; but rather that your genes determine the strength of your immune system (i.e., how many assaults your immune system can take before it reaches critical mass, and you develop a dis-ease). Some additional ingredients in vaccines (as listed by the CDC on their website) include antibiotics, aluminum gels, formaldehyde, monosodium glutamate (MSG), egg protein, and sulfites. Thus, we have antibiotics (which you could be allergic to); aluminum (highly involved in causing Alzheimer's disease); formaldehyde (a toxic carcinogenic substance used to pickle dead people); MSG ( a potent excitotoxin which, like aspartame, can cause seizures, brain tumors, etc.); egg protein (to which you could have a life threatening anaphylactic reaction); and sulfites (another toxin which we are advised not to consume much of orally, but in vaccines, it is injected directly into the blood stream). Is this not a veritable witch's brew of chemicals, organisms, and animal or human (aborted fetus) body parts? Note in this list that they do not mention the ethyl-mercury containing preservative thimerosol, which has been the only dangerous substance in vaccines to receive mainstream media attention (albeit most of that being disinformation) after the explosion in the rate of occurrence of autism in the last generation became self-evident proof that vaccines are the causative factor. For, although the scientists working for the medical mafia continue to use statistics to twist and spin their data to make us beLIEve that vaccines are not the cause, too many thousands of parents have watched their children enter the downward spiral into autism after their children received the vaccine which was the straw that broke the back of their child's immune system. No matter what the "white coats" tell these parents; they know the truth! Mercury (also in dental amalgam fillings) is a highly toxic heavy metal, has been documented to cause cancer, and can be absorbed through the digestive track, skin, and respiratory track. Mercury is 1,000 times more toxic than lead, and is second only to uranium as the most toxic metal. If children receive all recommended vaccines, they will receive 2,370 times the "allowable safe limit" for mercury in the first two years of life (as if there is such a thing as a "safe" amount of a toxic poison). Yet, even after Congressional hearings instigated by Congressman Dan Burton (whose own grandchild became autistic after receiving vaccines) resulted in the FDA requesting (not ordering) vaccine manufacturers to remove this toxic heavy metal from their products, mercury is still present in many vaccines. Although the symptoms of mercury poisoning are identical to the symptoms of autism, it should be noted that most children who descend into the hellish state known as autism do so after the MMR vaccine. The MMR vaccine is one of the few vaccines that do not contain mercury. Thus, it is self-evident that the removal of mercury will not make vaccines "safe". (This is why the mercury is the only thing being addressed at all; because when the people reading this paper realize that the very mechanism by which vaccines corrupt the immune system means that NO vaccine is safe and effective; there will be an evolution of consciousness where the structure of lies telling us vaccines are safe and effective disintegrates.) In the autistic community, this will lead to an exodus from the multiple autism groups saying it is all about the mercury or worse yet, that autism genes are "inherited", to the only group which has their focus on the actual problem. This group is named TAAP (the Autism Autoimmunity Project at www.taap.info/), (http://www.taap.info/),) and is led by April Oakes. In this author's opinion, it will be TAAP in alliance with the vaccine damaged soldiers and vets of the American Gulf War Veterans Association at www.agwva.org (http://www.agwva.org/) led by Peter Kawaja which, working together, will stop this holocaust on humanity called VIDS. The good news is that these VIDS can be reversed using natural remedies contained in the Hippocrates Protocol (www.drcarley.com). This "surgical strike" detoxification approach which has the potential to reverse ALL of the aforementioned conditions under the VIDS umbrella as long as detoxification is started early enough (before age 10 for neurological VIDS) will be the one truth put on top of the mountain of lies (that vaccines are safe and effective) that will cause the entire mountain of vaccine lies to crumble. Combined with a massive outpouring of public support to these two organizations, the root of the tree of vaccine evil will be exposed. Thus, the holocaust on humanity (where instead of people being put in concentration camps, the concentration camps are being put into the people) will finally be put to an end. Unfortunately, we can no longer pretend that this epidemic of VIDS is merely a "mistake" made by good intentioned, albeit misguided mad scientists. Because it's even worse than the above, folkswe are talking TREASON and CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, PETS, and even PLANTS, (which are also being genetically modified to create vaccines). The evidence for this is as follows: As concern for population growth started to grow and the final plans to bring in the New World Order were put in place, this lie called vaccines was transformed into pure evil, as it was realized that such delivery systems could be used to intentionally cause disease, which is now being done under the US Code, Title 50, Chapter 32, § 1520 and 1524. You can read it for yourself at your local library, or go to http://www.drcarley.com/Title%2050%20US%20Code.htm. This law has been in place since the 1960's, and it was last modified in April of 2000. The only stipulation made for experimentation on human subjects is that local civilian officials be notified 30 days before the experiment is started. Section 1524 adds that the Secretary of Defense may enter into agreements with the Secretary of Health and Human Services to provide support for vaccination programs through use of excess peacetime biological weapons (i.e., weapons of mass destruction). In April 2000, § 1520 (a) was passed to put alleged restrictions on the use of human subjects for testing of chemical or biological agents after a caller on C Span mentioned this law in 1999, which revealed this treasonous law to a huge audience of listeners (including this author, who has been including it in lectures and written materials since that call came into "Washington Journal"). However, the exceptions written to Title 50, chapter 32 under § 1520 subsection (b) in the 2000 law passed by our aiders and abettors of treason in Congress not only loophole back in a test carried out for "any peaceful purpose that is related to a medical, therapeutic, pharmaceutical, agricultural, industrial, or research activity"; but add that such biological and chemical warfare agents can now be also used for any law enforcement purpose, including "any purpose related to riot control" (just in case those C Span listeners should actually get off the couch at the horror of what the traitors in Washington, D.C. are doing to God's people). Subsection (c) of this law now mandates that "informed consent" be required. In reality, not a single vaccine has ever been tested for its long term side effects (including carcinogenic potential). Additionally, the intentional introduction of stealth viruses, (including man-made viruses that cause cancer, mycoplasma and the HIV virus), antigens which target certain races, (and surely a microchip in the future) into vaccines makes it self evident that informed consent is impossible, as it would initiate impeachment proceedings and war crimes trials against every "public servant" involved in perpetrating these crimes against the American people, in violation of the Nuremberg Code (which was written after the end of WW II to prevent the barbaric experiments that occurred in the Nazi concentration camps) . What most people don't know is that the top level mad scientists from Nazi Germany were actually brought to the United States through "Operation Paperclip", and have been continuing their work to this day in places like Brookhaven labs, Cold Spring Harbor and Plum Island in this author's backyard on Long Island. (To see the document proving that American scientists created the HIV virus, this author refers you to p. 442 of Death in the Air by Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz, where you can read the 1969 document in which the U.S. military/CIA and Rockefeller directed National Academy of Sciences-National Research Council (NAS-NRC) announced that a research program to explore the feasibility of "creating a new infective microorganismwhich would be refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease" could be completed at a total cost of $10 million.) Yes, this is what your tax dollars are going towards, folks. But hang on to your hat, because it only gets worse. The most heinous, bone chilling and evil piece of this puzzle has been revealed to the world by an American hero named Peter Kawaja, who worked in the late 1980's as a security and counter terrorism expert for the United States government (a service for which he has been rewarded with the murder of his wife, torching of his home, issuance of a war crimes subpoena to (they thought) confiscate all his evidence, illegal IRS liens on all subsequent income, and multiple attempts on his own life, all funded by YOUR tax dollars). Please go to www.agwva.org/mission.htm (http://www.agwva.org/mission.htm) and read some of the 34 counts that Mr. Kawaja brought against the domestic traitors to America (in both their individual and governmental capacities) in a federal lawsuit in which the perpetrators, again, used your tax dollars to hire themselves attorneys from the Department of "Justice" whose defense of their war criminal clients was that they are "immune, under color of law". (You can listen to Mr. Kawaja on one of his multiple internet radio shows, including "What's Ailing America?" which he co-hosts with this author at www.highway2health.net (http://www.highway2health.net/) every Wednesday at 10 PM, EST. Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National Institute of Health reported in December, 2003 that "the only safe vaccine is one that is never used". However, the reverberating truth, "the shot heard round the world" which will lead to the evolution of consciousness necessary to stop the holocaust against humanity known as vaccinations, will be that not only are vaccinations not safe or effective, but that they are actually weapons of mass destruction being perpetrated upon humanity in the name of health, for the purpose of genocide and to bring in the New World Order. Part 2 of the genocidal plan could drop anytime with activation of the Model State Health Emergency Powers Act whenever the next fabricated terrorist attack using biological agents occurs. Worse yet, the Congressional traitors in Washington posing as public "servants" are doing all they can to pass "Codex" legislation which will make the natural remedies and supplements used in the Hippocrates Protocol developed by this author to reverse all dis-eases only available by prescr-iption. So, you didn't hear about that on your local news station either? Please go to the site of another American hero, John Hamill of the International Alliance for Health Freedom (who reversed his schizophrenia symptoms with these natural supplements and has dedicated his life to stop Codex from passing) at www.iahf.com (http://www.iahf.com/) . Wake up, America-it's getting very late.it is time for the mountain of lies to crumble. Please spread the world to everyone you know we can make it happen. The time to stop chopping at branches and get to the root of this evil is now. http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=51420

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02-11-2005, 06:01 PM

So, how do we correct all these things? Blaming others solves nothing. We all listen to the "experts" who tell us what we must do to be healthy and we have allowed ourselves and our children to be vaccinated. Father must have made provision...

If vaccinations are so toxic, then why haven't the majority of vaccinated people dropped dead from their extensive use? For many generations small pox, measles, polio, diptheria, rubella and others have been nearly eliminated. Notwithstanding the imperfections of these solutions and plenty of other mistakes we've made, life expectancy has increased overall, not declined. This hardly suggests a slow genocide--but I agree--vaccinations can easily be used as a way of "culling of the herd." There are many other possible vectors as well, which increasing evidence is showing, that public health is no longer the main concern of our so-called "experts." We may indeed have been used as unwitting guinea pigs. Lately, high level biologists have been disappearing or meeting with some very unfortunate accidents. Maybe they have been silenced to keep us from learning what they have discovered. There are links for this. here's one:


Autism does seem to be on the rise, but this may not be the correct [or only] cause. The excuse of "Mercury Poisoning" may be an attempt at misdirection. I believe our very DNA structure is mutating from the usual two-stranded 46 chromosome double helix to something far more complex. Indeed, it has been suggested that three strands are appearing in the DNA of some very unique individuals and this information is being covered up as these people demonstrate some very unique capabilities.

Some of those who are diagnosed as autistic, may simply be so attuned to non-visual or non-verbal realities, they may have tuned out the grossly limited perception of reality predicated upon the ususal senses, and are aware of other realities which the rest of us cannot discern. Maybe they aren't "grounded" in this reality. Sorry, but I'm unable to provide links for these assertions at this time.

The govt is aware of this, in my opinion, and has attempted to gather all the "special" eggs in one basket for at least two generations now. Becoming more aware that something extraordinary is happening is the best we can do at this time, in my opinion, and be ready for anything that comes our way.

02-16-2005, 12:15 AM
I don’t know the answer or answers, nor do I pretend to, but I do know most folk are sleeping. Doing exactly as programmed and defiantly not paying attention, most seems to be sheeple. Our food is not natural anymore it is mostly processed and full of chemicals. Doctors do not know how to cure much, but they can treat all the symptoms. In my opinion they are drug pushers for the most part. We have the FDA approving things that have not been proven safe. Like take for example aspartamine, NutraSweet. It breaks down into wood grain alcohol and formaldehyde in our systems and cannot be flushed out of our system. They have approved drugs like mood elevators that now they are discovering can cause folk to go over the edge and teens to be suicidal. We have many new dis-eases here in the US that mostly don’t exist in other countries. Like Fibromyalgia, CIFIDS, ADD, ADHD Golf War syndrome (which has been linked to government drugs and vaccines, etc).

We have mostly garbage for news, mostly garbage for programming on TV, garbage mostly in the movies. We have engineered diseases like AIDS and SARS. Our children are not taught how to think, Heck when I was in school that was not the target either all them many years ago. And than instead of working earnestly on alternative energy we fight wars over oil. We can control the weather; we have mind control in various forms. A lot of stuff we see in the news is about wag the dog. We have slept so much that FEMA can come in and totally take over. We have allowed Bush way to much authority. We don’t have many friends anymore in the world. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, in my opinion. He looks good but sure is not doing well from where I stand. Areas like Social Security, national health, the deficit, etc. The Gov plays down UFO’s but knows an awfully lot about them. The gov. des not want us to own gold or many weeks in food storage. Farmers are not allowed anymore to grow food from unengineered seed. It has to be hybrid and most of that is treated so no matter what if you save some produce for seed next year it will not grow. Then there was 9/11, was it a terrorist attack or government sponsored? There is a large amount of evidence for the latter.

I see the age old fight between good and evil here. And evil is all around us. I think many of the churches have gone over, they certainly do not teach what one needs to do to walk righteously according to the bible. I think they are afraid if they did many would stop coming to church.

I think we are in the end times and here in the US we live in New Babylon. Not good for most of us in the US eh? Since in Revelations New Babylon is destroyed, also referred to as the great Harlot. I think to survive it wise to repent and make a 180 in behavior according to righteous living and behavior. I think it might be wise to return to a more Mosaic law diet. Most the foods we eat are acid producing and our bodies like to be alkaline. Good way for the PTB’s to keep us sick, sluggish and not paying attention, and our kids on Ritalin. It is time to work on forgiveness and walk the righteous path outlined in the bible. But that is my opinion.

The site the HeGoesB4Me posted about is a good one it has a lot of this stuff in there. It has a FBI training manual on the site about how to work with sheeple called the Quiet War http://users.gloryroad.net/~bigjim/silent_2.shtml (http://users.gloryroad.net/~bigjim/silent_2.shtml). Worth taking a look see at it. This guy sums up very well what is going on from a good variety of angles. Is he right I have no idea, but I think he is close about what the illuminati have been up to. Makes sense to me anyway. Main page http://users.gloryroad.net/~bigjim/ (http://users.gloryroad.net/~bigjim/)

Have a great day!

Holy father, maker of heaven and earth, through whom all things are made and all blessings come. I ask, if it is your will, that those seeking direction find it, that those seeking to find the truth find it. I ask this in the name of Yahushua your son Jesus Christ. Amen!

02-16-2005, 08:52 AM
ShadowWolf said:

I don’t know the answer or answers, nor do I pretend to, but I do know most folk are sleeping. Doing exactly as programmed and defiantly not paying attention, most seems to be sheeple.

Neither do I, but it has become very apparent that folks are waking up all over our world and are tired of being sheeple. A HUGE quest for TRUTH is taking place and I firmly believe that Our Father is behind it.

Our food is not natural anymore it is mostly processed and full of chemicals. Doctors do not know how to cure much, but they can treat all the symptoms. In my opinion they are drug pushers for the most part.

Yep!! The focus has shifted from curing the malady to treating the symptoms and increasing the cost of the treatment.

We have mostly garbage for news, mostly garbage for programming on TV, garbage mostly in the movies.

Yep!! As long as we're shown this external garbage on a screen, we don't have to deal with our own internal garbage. But unless we deal with our emotional baggage first, we cannot become spiritually mature as Our Father wishes.

We have engineered diseases like AIDS and SARS.

These things pose as much as a threat to our world as terrorism or nuclear weapons. We have no shortage of weapons of mass destruction on our world. Only wisdom seems to be in short supply. There are probably more engineered diseases than these.

Our children are not taught how to think, Heck when I was in school that was not the target either all them many years ago. I see the age old fight between good and evil here. And evil is all around us. I think many of the churches have gone over, they certainly do not teach what one needs to do to walk righteously according to the bible. I think they are afraid if they did many would stop coming to church.

This has been by design, so has television, and both are designed to keep us from realizing our own personal sovereignty so that we listen to the so-called experts. I mean no offense to you, ShadowWolf, but in my opinion the church and organized religion have also been used for this very same reason.

These things all have but one common purpose: to keep us from discovering the Father Within us. As a future educator, I intend to teach my students HOW to think, not WHAT to think. The evil isn't all around us, brother, it's inside of us and our reality reflects this clearly. The evil within is called ego. If we let go of our egos and turn to the Father Within, we don't need to be taught by the bible or any other book. Father will teach us Himself and there will be no more evil within or without.

And than instead of working earnestly on alternative energy we fight wars over oil. We can control the weather; we have mind control in various forms. A lot of stuff we see in the news is about wag the dog. We have slept so much that FEMA can come in and totally take over. We have allowed Bush way to much authority. We don’t have many friends anymore in the world. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, in my opinion. He looks good but sure is not doing well from where I stand. Areas like Social Security, national health, the deficit, etc. The Gov plays down UFO’s but knows an awfully lot about them. The gov. des not want us to own gold or many weeks in food storage. Farmers are not allowed anymore to grow food from unengineered seed. It has to be hybrid and most of that is treated so no matter what if you save some produce for seed next year it will not grow. Then there was 9/11, was it a terrorist attack or government sponsored? There is a large amount of evidence for the latter.

Very well said!! It's all about those who have chosen to "play god" and their attempts to consolidate control over the sleeping masses. Well the masses are waking up...

I think we are in the end times and here in the US we live in New Babylon.

The US has much to answer for, but end times? Sorry brother ShadowWolf, but I don't recognize any book as being the "Word of God" or the "Fifth Epochal Revelation" or any other such term for placing spiritual authority in a material object. Father has written His Word upon my soul and this is also true of everyone. We must discover for ourselves the TRUTH God has written upon our soul. This is the purpose of LIFE. Others may share their truth with us and it most certianly helps, but we must discover our own TRUTH. In my opinion, this is what free-will and personal sovereingty is all about.

If we can discover this, individually and globally, I see a new beginning for all of us, not the end.

02-16-2005, 09:21 AM

02-26-2005, 01:27 PM
Wow, I've been looking at the Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars at

http://users.gloryroad.net/~bigjim/silent_2.shtml website, and I don't know wether to be angry or afraid as so much of this "document" seems all to true...

May Father help us as these things are bound to become revealed sooner or later.

Silent weapon technology has evolved from Operations Research (O.R.), a strategic and tactical methodology developed under the Military Management in England during World War II. The original purpose of Operations Research was to study the strategic and tactical problems of air and land defense with the objective of effective use of limited military resources against foreign enemies (i.e., logistics).
It was soon recognized by those in positions of power that the same methods might be useful for totally controlling a society. But better tools were necessary.

Although the so-called "moral issues" were raised, in view of the law of natural selection it was agreed that a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent.

Consequently, in the interest of future world order, peace, and tranquillity, it was decided to privately wage a quiet war against the American public with an ultimate objective of permanently shifting the natural and social energy (wealth) of the undisciplined and irresponsible many into the hands of the self-disciplined, responsible, and worthy few.

The public cannot comprehend this weapon, and therefore cannot believe that they are being attacked and subdued by a weapon.

The public might instinctively feel that something is wrong, but that is because of the technical nature of the silent weapon, they cannot express their feeling in a rational way, or handle the problem with intelligence. Therefore, they do not know how to cry for help, and do not know how to associate with others to defend themselves against it.

When a silent weapon is applied gradually, the public adjusts/adapts to its presence and learns to tolerate its encroachment on their lives until the pressure (psychological via economic) becomes too great and they crack up.

Therefore, the silent weapon is a type of biological warfare. It attacks the vitality, options, and mobility of the individuals of a society by knowing, understanding, manipulating, and attacking their sources of natural and social energy, and their physical, mental, and emotional strengths and weaknesses.

Give me control over a nation's currency, and I care not who makes its laws. -- Mayer Amschel Rothschild, 1743 - 1812)

02-26-2005, 01:53 PM
I agree kind of scary ha?

George Barnard
05-06-2005, 12:51 AM
Just chipping in...

There's Illuminate and "Illuminate". The former are those who were illumined -- managed to lead a life of balance, and became the recipients of the first aspect of the Morontoia Mind -- such as Pascal, Kierkegaard, Spinoza, Whitman, Swedenborg, Dante Alighieri, and Nostradamus.

Then there are those who long-ago stole the name, Illuminate, and try to run the whole Urantia shop for Michael in their way -- all pure left-brainers they are. They are a left-over of Lucifer's teachings, an evil bunch.

There's a book that has been in print for over 100 years, written by Richard Maurice Bucke, himself an Enlightened One. It is called "Cosmic Consciousness" and it was first published in 1901.

It's a quaint piece of work, and it needs to be read like the UPapers. IMO.

Que le Bon Dieu t'accompagne...

05-06-2005, 12:56 PM

Thank you for your contribution here. Interestingly, I picked up a copy of Bucke's book a couple of weeks ago. Though not yet beginning it I now have more reason to give it my attention.



George Barnard
05-06-2005, 08:51 PM
Frogigr writes:

Interestingly, I picked up a copy of Bucke's book a couple of weeks ago.
There's no such thing as a coincidence. I found the book in an unattended book store, and left my money on the counter. When I got home, an overseas visitor found a place for it out of sight, and there it stayed for years, until the very day I needed it to explain the inexplicable -- an event of which Richard Maurice Bucke explains, happening right there in my clinic.

It almost "blew" my mind, though many contend that such had happened long ago.:ROFL:
Scads o'blessings... George.

05-07-2005, 09:01 AM

As one who enjoys staying within the flow of coincidence and synchronicity I have also ordered "Search for 11:11". Will probably get around to reading it sometime in the next 5-10 years.




George Barnard
05-07-2005, 09:13 AM

Oh, no, Frogigr. It's a 5***** rated "Ican't put it down," and if you know the UBook well, it will truly blow your mind. :Applause:

If I knew your email address, I'd send you something in Doc form on José Goldblum, a true Illuminate of the best kind.

Scads o'Blessings...
George. :D

05-07-2005, 02:08 PM

Please know that I use the term "knucklehead" affectionately.

Hey knucklhead, you can both e-mail and private message me with documents by clicking on my alias and choosing either option.




George Barnard
05-07-2005, 09:59 PM
Frogigr writes: <<< Please know that I use the term "knucklehead" affectionately. >>>

That's OK, Boofhead (an Aussie term of endearment). Thanks for helping this guy out.

Years ago there was this comic strip in the papers about Boofhead -- a politically incorrect, lovable guy. I miss him. I get some great belly laughs here, but never enough since I seem to be addicted to them.

I'll find the José Goldblum doc and send it.

God bless...

05-09-2005, 08:44 AM
Hey Guys!!

It has always been a question of intent. Enlightenment can be used in service to others or service to self. Just like a hammer can be used to create a beautiful home or it can be used to bash someone in the head...

I'd like to ask if any Urantia Board members are aware of Nesara (http://www.nesara.us/) and if so what are your opinions concerning same. In my opinion Nesara (http://www.nesara.us/) could go a long way towards illuminating our whole world. Maybe we've allowed ourselves to be bashed in the head long enough.


George Barnard
05-09-2005, 09:11 AM
I've got some 2,200 transmissions here from 11 different receivers in our group, and except for some (private) words coming from Midwayers on rare occasions, all are kind words... good advice.

Three of us, in US, UK, and Oz regularly talk to the (Damascus) Scribe, who is also called Sananda, and who was Machiventa's and Jesus' now Personalized Adjuster.

Better check the NESARA archives for some 'supposed words' from Sananda that are very un-Sananda like IMO, dealing with a deadline for the warmongering mulligrubs, whilst the Sea of Japan is since filling up with war ships eyeing the DPRK.

I'd be most surprised if NESARA got it right. Don't look like it to me.

God bless...

05-09-2005, 02:35 PM
My question concerns the merits of the National Economic Security And Reformation Act and how it can help to promote ecomonic and spiritual freedom in our world by the correct use of free-will human rights and common law between equally sovereign people, not civil law which promotes license or contract priviledges between master and slave...

Thank you for your opinion George, but I'm not interested in turning this into a discussion of the merits of one faith movement vs. another. Other websites have beaten that poor horse to death and I see no need to continue it here.

George Barnard
05-09-2005, 09:47 PM

Fortunately it is the National Economic Security And Reformation Act, Not the International Economic Security And Reformation Act and it might only effect the US of A, which is not the whole (free) world... far from it at this juncture in time. :say what?

Seems to me you missed the point, however, in that NESARA predicted certain things to happen by certain dates, and they did not come about. :BS:

There is no argument about "them versus us" when there are proven facts, as a research effort (suggested to you) would show. :Don't Kno


05-10-2005, 10:16 AM
Tell me George, since when has free-will ever been 100% predictable? It seems to me that you missed the point in that either NESARA or IESARA offers a potential solution to most of the problems which have been discussed upon this rather lengthy but valid thread concerning the not-so-secret existence and false teachings of the Illuminati. I'm not interested in predictions, but I am interested in solutions to the problems facing our world. Yes, it has the potential of misuse, like the hammer analogy I mentioned, but then so does channeling or T/R or whatever you wish to call it.

As a citizen of the USA, George, I admit I am somewhat more interested in this potential Act of Congress being passed here. And should the people of this world will it to become a global reality, I believe it will go a long way towards promoting global peace, prosperity, and spiritual unity. Bogus predictions notwithstanding.

I did not mean to imply that the USA is the whole world, but the USA is an experiment in Tolerance, Freedom, and Justice based on the Constitution. Unfortuantely, the Constitution has been quietly, but systematically, subverted during the last hundred years or so. This has been by carefull design, in my opinion. Such documents as Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars (http://users.gloryroad.net/~bigjim/silent_2.shtml)and Is the FED privately owned (http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today...vatelyowned.htm)? give very substantial evidence to support this assertion. I have done considerable research, George, and your suggestion that I haven't is quite disengenuous. Another document entitled Our American Common Law (http://www.svpvril.com/OACL.html) may be of interest to Urantia Board members. I'd like to point out that none of these documents are from channeled sources.

Three of us, in US, UK, and Oz regularly talk to the (Damascus) Scribe, who is also called Sananda, and who was Machiventa's and Jesus' now Personalized Adjuster.

I respect your beliefs, George, but I'd like to see you prove this dubious assertion. Your channeled sources are no better than anothers. One has the right to determine the merits of one's own beliefs, but not those of another. It is my understanding that "Sananda" is an honorific given to enlightened beings, but not a name of a specific being. Have you considered the possibility that you are being duped?

The whole "us vs. them" mentality is a result of the false teachings of division, separation, and conflict promoted in our world for a very long time now. The hidden powers-that-be of our world continually seek to promote these things in every country. It's the old strategy: Divide and Conquer. So far its worked pretty well, don't you think?

There is no "Them"; there is only "Us." The time has come to seek unity in embracing the things we all have in common. Only in this way can we hope to achieve global peace.

We must let go of the old ways of division, separation, and conflict. These things are the Legacy of the Rebellion. If we don't; the best we can hope to achieve is global destruction.

08-17-2005, 05:53 PM
The Illuminati and Our Creator Son

Let us not fear, only identify our enemies; those not of our fold and remember our Creators instruction to
Be of Good Cheer & Have No Fear!
Every Man and Woman capable of moral decision (Self Judgement) ethical choice (Social Judgement) and spiritual discernment (spiritual Judgement) must make their choice of who to follow.


09-05-2005, 05:23 PM
In order to give meaningful suggestions for building a brighter future, we first need to speak candidly about what’s happening in the world at present. It appears that there is a relatively small, powerful group of elites who desire to gain as much control over the world as possible. Their primary means for establishing control are through diminishing purpose, advocating secrecy, and promoting fear and victimization. As they gain control, our freedoms and liberties are increasingly taken away, often without our even realizing it. more at: http://www.wanttoknow.info/brighterfuture (http://www.wanttoknow.info/brighterfuture)

09-05-2005, 05:42 PM
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are
evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it."

- Albert Einstein

01-18-2006, 02:24 PM
I have long been a reader of The Urantia Book, though I am new to this site. I have the original book and used to host study groups. There is still much that I love about it but I am also a bit skeptical now and wish to share my personal concerns with you. Agree or disagree. Of course, I could be wrong. Now...The Urantia Book states that Peace will never come to Urantia without ONE World Government, Language and Religion....Think "New World Order". Those of you unfamiliar with it can find it on the internet....more than you will ever be able to read! The appearace of the Urantia Book was timed, perhaps not accidently, during, what is called "The Aquarian Experiment" or Conspiracy. You can also find this if you search. Briefly it was planned by Tavistock...a psych-op arm of the Illuminati who work to bring The NWO to fruition with One Government, One Religion, One Bank, One Court which THEY control. We already have the World Bank and the World Court and the rest is playing out before our very eyes. Denver's Airport is called The New World Airport! The Aquarian Experiment was to see if they, the Illuminati through Tavistock and with the blessing of our own Government, could effect an entire generation. The CIA was handing out bags of free LSD across college campuses...LSD was developed in UK and one of the ways Tavistock indoctrinated a gereration of Americans. Propaganda was used, mind control possibly...probably. The so called British Invasion ie Beatles, Rolling Stones...were created and promoted by Tavistock. Lyrics to their songs...there is much to find if you seek. Yes...seek and you shall find here also. Anyway...it was a success! One of the things LSD does...I would NEVER use it again nor do I suggest anyone should...is expand the mind...break down walls...open up the mind to a more Universal Awareness. This prepped a generation to accept their NWO which does away with National boundaries....allows us to experience our fellow man as our planetary brothers and sisters on a planet in space....exactly as the Urantia Book does! The U Book even introduces us to Lucifer and The Lucifer Rebellion....Lucifer is the ONE we are supposed to be worshiping when the NWO is in place! So....this is my very personal thought....is the Urantia Book, cloaked in mystery as it is (and what THEY love by the way) a Creation of Tavistock who brought us the Aquarian Experiment and The British Invasion not to mention much, much more. Remember, we are to be the "Teachers" of the coming New Age of Urantia! Now...this I can be....but there is no way in Hell I am going to wordship Lucifer!....no matter how indoctrinated they make me! Much of this I agree with...that we must rid ourselves of Dogma and Pride...open up and see the world as whole. A peacefull world without wars is something I have prayed and hoped for most of my life. I am sure you do too. To me...Life is sacred! It is not sacred to them. Life means nothing to them....they will do anything to achieve their NWO.....including killing millions of people including US! One of the big problems that we were aware of back then but that seems to be repressed today for obvious reasons is that there are WAY too many people in the world if it is to sustain itself! Sooooo THEY must do away with many! Enter..."Translation" in the U Book....where those who have reached a certain level of spiritual awareness or a higher circle will be "Translated"....ie Killed by them !!! No one hopes to be more wrong about this than I! Again, let me stress, there is much beauty in the Urantia Book! But, viewed form this angle, there is much to be concerned about as well! There is also the section about selected breeding and how we use it to breed cattle but not for ourselves. This idea comes straight out of Nazi Germany and The Aryan Nation idea! A superior race with death to the rest of humanity and the inferior bloodstock of Urantia! An Illuminati idea! And guess who has the superior Bloodlines...THEY DO! Most of our Presidents come from these bloodlines! Check it out. I pray I am wrong. World Peace... an end to war and hunger is what I long for and what any human being with a heart and a soul longs for too. But not by using the means of creating wars, terror, murdering, rapeing, contolling minds, promoting drugs,sexual promiscuity,abusing, tortureing, destroying the environment, assassinating, and worshiping Lucifer instead of GOD! Not by supressing the truth, the media, propagandizing, infiltrating Governments and campuses, creating Secret Societies that worship Satan and so much more that is un-Godly and un-Christlike....this is Pure evil, sadistic, and just plain sick! There are other ways to go about achieving this end result. More loving, peaceful ways. How about Truth, Beauty, Goodness??? Surely Creating Wars is not one of them! Think about it. Your Godly Soul knows the answer. Peace be with you, with All of us and with this world.

01-18-2006, 03:06 PM
Good questions. There is far too much communicated in the U Book that IS "spiritually sublime" for such parts to be anything other than expressions sourced in God. The nefarious elements you speak of could not have developed such expressions. Another way to say it is that the Ubook does far too good a job of conveying the REAL LIFE of Jesus' Gospel for it to have been a forgery.



01-31-2006, 09:37 AM
Urantiachild, is there a connection between Tavistock, the Battle Creek Sanatarium, MK-Ultra, and Dr. Sadler's "sleeping subject"???

01-31-2006, 10:48 AM
I do not know the answer to your questions. Even my post is speculation. Whatever you want to call it, our world is gaining speed towards the New World Order. I get posts from the UN and one I read last night was about their new program doing just this. I do believe the age of Nationalism and National Pride (Ego) has to go and that we will never have world peace as long as there is competition, especially Nuclear or grabs for oil and use of threats and fear, bombing, killing and war, sanctions and greed which are all negative and have nothing to do with moving us forward into Peace. We must begin to really see ourselves as planatary brothers and sisters who truly care about the planet we live on. The USA with our Military "Might is Right" and "Above the Law" attitude is setting the worse possible example for the rest of the World we live on. Other nation states will follow suit to protect their own personal interests. We are sitting on a time bomb! The focus MUST change from this limited, Ego driven, negative and evil position to one of setting a higher example in the world...which we used to have. And working towards the mental shift of One Earth, One People living on it. So...this part I do agree with. Also a shift from Religion to Spiritual Union with the creator. How do we do this? Maybe The U Book is to help us get there? I do not know. It certainly does open up the mind to this more cosmic understanding, no? Let us just hope that the end game is Pure and Good...or I should say True, Beautiful and Good and we don't end up in a worse state than we are in now.

02-02-2006, 09:38 AM
Well said Urantiachild!

There are those who believe that TUB is a creation of MK-Ultra. I'm not sure but there are some things in TUB which don't quite add up at least to my way of thinking. But it does make a good story.

Its my assertion that nuclear weapons aren't anything new and if we could ask Porshunta and Fantad, I'm sure they would tell us just how incredibly stupid nuclear weapons really are. In my opinion, the Sahara Desert is a planetary wound which hasn't completely healed even after all this time.

In my opinion its time for unilateral disarmament. Either nobody has them and our world survives or every country gets them [because to the animalistic way of thinking "might makes right"] and our entire world goes the way of the green and orange race in an effort to prove who has the bigger stick.

I pray that we learn from their mistake before its too late. Two wrongs don't make a right. Nuclear power in any form is a great wrong and a blatant corruption of Truth which if allowed to spiral out of control may very well render this a very dead planet.

Ethnocentrism is the practice of judging all other cultures by one's own culture. This is based upon the assumption that one's own way of life is superior to all other cultures. Mild ethnocentrism binds a culture together whereas harsh ethnocentrism creates prejudice, racism, bigotry, and war.

Cultural relativism is the belief that the behaviors and customs of any culture must be viewed and analyzed by the culture's own standards. Mild cultural relativism seeks objective understanding of cultural diversity whereas harsh cultural relativism can be used to excuse customs and beliefs that may violate basic human rights.

Which of these "isms" reflects our animalistic "mark of the beast" and which reflects the Golden Rule of the Jesusonian? If it were possible to ask Porshunta and Fantad, I'm fairly sure they'd tell us...only the fish does not know that its the water in which it swims.

I ask Urantia Board members to reflect upon this before you pledge allegiance to any flag. Speaking of flags, why does the American Flag in most official government buildings have a golden trim and an eagle sitting on top of the flagpole whereas the flag the average american citizen displays at their home does not? Perhaps Uncle Sam is a wayward child...or perhaps he's just another corporate employee like the rest of us.

02-02-2006, 10:20 AM
I agree with you. ALL Nuclear Weapons need to be laid down across the board. The US Bully refuses others to have them while we develope MORE! Just look at our Budget! Shows you just where our priorities lie. Why doesn't the UN send in their inspectors Here?! We also have to lay down our False Pride...Nationalistic, Religious, Racial, Sexual, Monetary,etc. The We vs Them...this is the emotional Thrust behind conflict. We are moving towards One People and One World but how will it play out? Will we take the high road or the low? Our very survival relies on taking the high! Seems to me we are on the slippery slope to low, lower, lowest! There is, on every level of human experience a vast difference between False Pride and True Esteem. Those of us who know what is going on do not feel the True Esteem for our Nation. We weep. Those of us who are blind still harbour the False Pride THEY in Power use to keep us in the extreems of going to war and cheering on their highly paid sports teams! We must join hands as Brother's and as Sisters together on a planet and create understanding and love! This is the only way we can survive! And we can all worship our Heavenly Father/Mother ( this is one area I have a problem with in the UB and I personally prefer ONENESS) no mater what Religion...we must lay down our weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION and Join hands across the globe in Peace and in Love. The US is a threat to the world and to world Peace at the same timewe are claiming to be fighting for it, and as we threaten we forbid others to work to defend themselves! How arrogant! This war manipulation and National Pride thing may have worked for them in the past but I think it is played out, old hat, time to move onward and upward towards the better good! I don't care which side you are on...it has nothing to do with God in my opinion....more to do with Lucifer? I choose God!

02-12-2008, 01:01 AM
:Hilarious I have long been a reader of The Urantia Book, though I am new to this site. I have the original book and used to host study groups. There is still much that I love about it but I am also a bit skeptical now and wish to share my personal concerns with you. Agree or disagree. Of course, I could be wrong. Now...The Urantia Book states that Peace will never come to Urantia without ONE World Government, Language and Religion....Think "New World Order". Those of you unfamiliar with it can find it on the internet....more than you will ever be able to read! The appearace of the Urantia Book was timed, perhaps not accidently, during, what is called "The Aquarian Experiment" or Conspiracy. You can also find this if you search. Briefly it was planned by Tavistock...a psych-op arm of the Illuminati who work to bring The NWO to fruition with One Government, One Religion, One Bank, One Court which THEY control. We already have the World Bank and the World Court and the rest is playing out before our very eyes. Denver's Airport is called The New World Airport! The Aquarian Experiment was to see if they, the Illuminati through Tavistock and with the blessing of our own Government, could effect an entire generation. The CIA was handing out bags of free LSD across college campuses...LSD was developed in UK and one of the ways Tavistock indoctrinated a gereration of Americans. Propaganda was used, mind control possibly...probably. The so called British Invasion ie Beatles, Rolling Stones...were created and promoted by Tavistock. Lyrics to their songs...there is much to find if you seek. Yes...seek and you shall find here also. Anyway...it was a success! One of the things LSD does...I would NEVER use it again nor do I suggest anyone should...is expand the mind...break down walls...open up the mind to a more Universal Awareness. This prepped a generation to accept their NWO which does away with National boundaries....allows us to experience our fellow man as our planetary brothers and sisters on a planet in space....exactly as the Urantia Book does! The U Book even introduces us to Lucifer and The Lucifer Rebellion....Lucifer is the ONE we are supposed to be worshiping when the NWO is in place! So....this is my very personal thought....is the Urantia Book, cloaked in mystery as it is (and what THEY love by the way) a Creation of Tavistock who brought us the Aquarian Experiment and The British Invasion not to mention much, much more. Remember, we are to be the "Teachers" of the coming New Age of Urantia! Now...this I can be....but there is no way in Hell I am going to wordship Lucifer!....no matter how indoctrinated they make me! Much of this I agree with...that we must rid ourselves of Dogma and Pride...open up and see the world as whole. A peacefull world without wars is something I have prayed and hoped for most of my life. I am sure you do too. To me...Life is sacred! It is not sacred to them. Life means nothing to them....they will do anything to achieve their NWO.....including killing millions of people including US! One of the big problems that we were aware of back then but that seems to be repressed today for obvious reasons is that there are WAY too many people in the world if it is to sustain itself! Sooooo THEY must do away with many! Enter..."Translation" in the U Book....where those who have reached a certain level of spiritual awareness or a higher circle will be "Translated"....ie Killed by them !!! No one hopes to be more wrong about this than I! Again, let me stress, there is much beauty in the Urantia Book! But, viewed form this angle, there is much to be concerned about as well! There is also the section about selected breeding and how we use it to breed cattle but not for ourselves. This idea comes straight out of Nazi Germany and The Aryan Nation idea! A superior race with death to the rest of humanity and the inferior bloodstock of Urantia! An Illuminati idea! And guess who has the superior Bloodlines...THEY DO! Most of our Presidents come from these bloodlines! Check it out. I pray I am wrong. World Peace... an end to war and hunger is what I long for and what any human being with a heart and a soul longs for too. But not by using the means of creating wars, terror, murdering, rapeing, contolling minds, promoting drugs,sexual promiscuity,abusing, tortureing, destroying the environment, assassinating, and worshiping Lucifer instead of GOD! Not by supressing the truth, the media, propagandizing, infiltrating Governments and campuses, creating Secret Societies that worship Satan and so much more that is un-Godly and un-Christlike....this is Pure evil, sadistic, and just plain sick! There are other ways to go about achieving this end result. More loving, peaceful ways. How about Truth, Beauty, Goodness??? Surely Creating Wars is not one of them! Think about it. Your Godly Soul knows the answer. Peace be with you, with All of us and with this world.

02-12-2008, 01:56 AM
Hi Urantia Child,

Your post was very interesting and full of real searchings and values regarding the Urantia Revelation.

In all of our endeavors to discover the truth, we must remember we are on an uphill climb on slippery slopes.

First let us remember the Masters teaching, our whole battle is against doubt, unbelief.

Since 1955 when the revelation was published and made available to the worlds people many secret readers have been effected by the truth postulates of the fifth epochal revelation. Indeed the very purpose of this revelation is to create new and advanced truth postulates for our universe frame of thinking. Many world leaders, artist, politicians, scientist including Einstein have used the teachings of this revelation as it has effected their minds. It will take 1000 years for the effect of the truth postulates of this revelation to bring mankind to a place of one world government - one world language - One world brother/sisterhood - and one world religion, and you can be sure because the Master of a far flung Universe has ordained it, will be the very religion of the Master that prevails over all other religions - The Religion of the Spirit, personal religious experience with the seven fold spirit influences now available to all mankind.

Those misguided human rulers who seek for one world government - one world religion - one world language - and many other truth postulates of our revelation are similar in todays experience with epochal revelation to the very manner in which the original followers of the Master, although well intended did not fully grasp the Masters message of loving service and courageous loyalty to the new truths enshrined in their hearts.

It is not the revelation that is simply a text that distorts the meanings of these things, it is the minds of men warped by their own imaginings and visions that have incorrectly identified the means by which all of the above are to come about.

We should also remember the quote in the revelation that states, that many a religious paradox can be solved by understanding that our immediate planetary supervisors are not perfect. And also should we remember what is, and the Master himself gave the key to understanding the revelation when he himself declared to Nathanial when he asked about the so called perfection of the scriptures, when the Master declared that while man may crave perfection, only the creator sons posses it. Here in this statement is the key to understanding all future revelations of God to mankind. The life and teachings of the Master is the key to a one world brotherhood, as each individual lends an ear, the Master himself will unfold in each and every one of us, what was divinely folded up in the person of Jesus. The increasing perfection of the individual, is the key to the world, we all so powerfully hope and pray for, that fact that we do, is the living light that leads us all forward. Urantiachild, many of the authors of the text of our revelation have never lived a life in the flesh, their fore they sometimes speak of things difficult for the human type of evolutionary mind to understand. All the sons of God who wrote to us through the revelation are real living persons. When I find myself having difficulty understanding the message they delivered to this world thought the revelation, I directly approach, the personality of that particular son of God. When I do this the confusion I have with their writings disappears in the power of the love, that transfers in this experience. It is most powerful and bears ample witness to the Masters proclamation that the Father of Lights rules a vast domain by the power of LOVE.

Intellectual differences dissolve in this universal solvent of all of the various orders of the sons of God. Personality is a divine bestowal gift, and like the divine monitor, is already perfect as it is a direct gift from the Father, therefore can it transcend the distances of space and put all sincere seekers in the direct and personal presence of the authors of all of the revelation text, since every one of them is also in the possession of personality.

Those few world leaders, who have attempted to make a spiritual kingdom out of material desires and cravings for power, will not prevail over those who seek entrance by the door. The living Jesus and the risen Christ.

He is after all the Planetary Prince of Peace on this world, and who knows what may happen, to fulfill all of the wonderful promises he has made to all of his children on this world. Not one of them is forgotten, neither can any of them ever be truly lost.

This revelation entrusted to this day and generation will bring us faithfully forward to receive the next. So we should all be of good cheer and have no fear.

Your brother and fellow server of the divine plan for Urantia
serving this day and generation

09-09-2008, 02:18 PM

Zeitgeist - The Movie (http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/) (parts II & III; not part I) has direct bearing on most if not all things discussed on this thread.

There will be a one world government, that is clear. But will this one world government serve the people of this world or will the people of this world serve the government?

Consider the Bill of Rights (http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/world/billofrights.htm) in the Constitution of the United States. This was an unprecedented achievement in any governmental charter because of the concept that individual rights are God-given. As such, these rights are unalienable. At the same time the Bill of Rights empowers the individual citizen, it limits the power and authority of the government. Because government derives its power and authority by consent of the governed, government serves the people.

The money-changers have always worked towards the opposite philosophy and teach people to serve institutions. Government and Military, corporations and mass media, religion and education, the money changers and those who serve the money changers seek out positions of authority within these human institutions. But over all these institutions is a central bank created by the money changers. All of these institutions seek to exchange our God-given rights for privileges granted by these institutions.

We must be ever vigilant to protect our God-given rights. The one world government should be based upon these clearly defined rights which may not be abrogated for any reason without clearly proven evidence, probable cause, and due process. In addition to electing members of the government, we the people of this entire world should also elect the heads of all the other institutions because these humanly created institutions are supposed to serve us and be accountable to us. Not the other way around. Also, no single individual should be allowed to own an institution which serves the the common good.

By carefully electing those among us who are dedicated to serving the common good (but not their own power and authority) to be our leaders, we will have control of the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of world government. By doing likewise for the heads of banking and corporate endeavors, we will have control of global monetary and economic systems, scientific exploration and life affirming technology, food production and distribution, housing, health-care, and education.

This will virtually eliminate all the war, tragedy, and suffering wrought by the money changers and a new era of peace and freedom will finally be realized upon this beautiful world of sacred abundance.

Both the Urantia Book and the Bible describe an indignant Jesus as cleansing the temple in Jerusalem of the money changers. His actions worked for one whole day. None-the-less, a seed was planted within the consciousness of this world and that seed is beginning to bear fruit.

No matter if we call them money-changers or Illuminati, we cannot ignore them. Neither can we resist them. And it is no longer necessary to follow these wolves in shepherd's clothing.

To heal a situation, it must first be exposed. Having been exposed, it can then be healed. In order to cleanse the temple, we must forgive them.

03-05-2009, 11:08 AM
I have seen more posts, magazines articles, emails and the such this week about the Illuminanti that my head is spinning. Who are they. I looked them up on the internet and didnt find much... I was just wondering what they are all about.

Thanks !
Hi Debi,
Our revelation reveals that the world has always been led by a small group of well organized family's. This is not a conspiracy, but a fact of history. True representative government is the ideal set forth in our revelation to manage the social and economic affairs of a large national family.

True representative type of government is the only power strong enough, with the voice of an informed citizenry to overthrow the planetary mismanagement of the wealthy and fortunate few who attempt to rule over the unfortunate many. We should have no fear, for did not the Master himself say, I have overcome the world. He has also passed the keys to the social and economic affairs of this world into the hands of all those who can hear the Fathers voice, and then declared that no evil, or principality of evil will prevail against this fraternity of the brotherhood of man. We are on the winning team. Time and the full disclosure of planetary mismanagement will open new safeguards against those few individuals who refuse to be their brothers keepers.

In Canada the teachings of the revelation concerning the governments of mankind are already active in a Federally Chartered Political Party. The ten steps or stages of true representative government will appeal to the spirit of truth indwelling the citizens of every nation and will set the new foundation for upright government. In the end, it will be we the people who rule over and wisely guide and control our elected public officials and our public servants. This better way is just now entering in to the actual workings of the government of the world. The moral and ethical fiber of Obama is much greater then the debased character of the Bush family. He may well succeed as did John F. Kennedy of falling in love with the people he served. Education of public opinion is the true method approved by our planetary supervisors for going forward in progressive government of the world. The Internet and the books of knowledge being written by world philosophers out of every nation is replacing ignorance with knowledge based in truth. Our revelation supplies the sources of information needed to advance human governments in all democratic nations of the world. This information needs to be propagated in the minds of those volunteering for public service to effectively safeguard the future for our children.


08-17-2009, 07:33 AM
The Illuminati is a front organization for the Jesuit order. They were founded in 1776 by a Jesuit priest named Adam Weishaupt. In 1773, the Society of Jesus was banished forever by a papal bull issued by Pope Clement XIV, banning the Jesuits forever from all Roman Catholic jurisdiction, most notably from France, Spain and Portugal. Well as history shows, the Society of Jesus was reinstated into the Roman Catholic church in 1814, mainly due to the Napoleanic wars waged throughout Europe which eventually reached the footsteps of the Roman church. Thorough research must be done on the Society of Jesus. Studying their history goes to show why church and state must be separate. They have the most influence in political, social and economic affairs all throughout the world more than any other institution, secret society or government. People need to do in depth investigation on the history of the Roman Catholic institution going back to the decline of and fall of the Roman Empire. Then will all the events of today's world be of much more understanding. Once you are educated about the Society of Jesus, you may become very concerned of their infiltration into the affairs of the Urantia foundation and other Urantia affiliations. The Society of Jesus is truly the "mystery of iniquity ".

03-31-2013, 09:33 AM
Hi Folks, with the election of a Jesuit to the chief office of the Church of Rome I was wondering what this means. Good or Evil! Your reflections on this would be appreciated. Also I would like to retract my comment above about Obama. Our actions are our final decisions and Obama's actions reflect the ideologies of a modern day Hitler. God help America and the world.

Also I have made many changes to my Forum http://PaulKemp.info a forum reflecting the Soul of Urantia.